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Revisions II
C. 65Eight Questions of Dulcitius, in one bookDe octo Dulcitii quaestionibus, liber unus
Liber quem praenotavi: De octo Dulcitii quaestionibus, non esset in hoc opere commemorandus inter libros meos, cum sit confectus ex his quae a me in aliis antea conscripta sunt, nisi et disputationis aliquid a nobis interpositum repperiretur in eo, et uni earum quaestionum non ex opusculo aliquo alio meo responsionem, sed tunc quae potuit occurrere reddidissem.
The book I have entitled Eight Questions of Dulcitius would not need to be mentioned in this work among my books, since it is put together out of things I had written earlier in other places, were it not that some discussion of my own is found inserted in it, and that to one of those questions I gave an answer not from any other small work of mine but from whatever I was then able to think of.
DulcHic liber sic incipit: quantum mihi videtur, dilectissime fili Dulciti.
This book begins as follows: As it seems to me, dearly beloved son Dulcitius.
DulcBk. 1PrefacePraefatio
Quantum mihi videtur, dilectissime fili Dulciti, non tardavi respondere interrogationibus tuis. Per Pascha quippe hoc anno, quo domi cum meis fui, tertio calendas Aprilis a Carthagine mihi missas litteras Tuae Dilectionis accepi.
As it seems to me, dearly beloved son Dulcitius, I have not been slow to answer your questions. For this year at Easter, when I was at home with my own people, I received on the thirtieth of March the letter your Charity had sent me from Carthage.
DulcPost eos autem dies sanctos confestim Carthaginem sum profectus, in qua civitate nihil me dictare permisit occupationum, quae ibi non potest deesse, nimia multitudo.
But after those holy days I set out at once for Carthage, where the excessive press of business that cannot be lacking in that city left me no time to dictate anything.
DulcSed posteaquam inde regressus sum, peractis apud nostros quindecim diebus, qui me post absentiam diuturnam curare alia compulerunt (nam post tres menses redire permissus sum), rescribere ista non distuli et abs te missis quaestionibus, quae a me per diversa opuscula mea iam fuerant pertractatae, ex eisdem opusculis reddere vel solutionem vel certe disceptationem meam. Denique illud tantummodo, ubi quaeris quare dixerit Dominus nimirum praescius futurorum: elegi David secundum cor meum (Reg 8, 16), cum ille talia et tanta commiserit, ubi tractaverim et quomodo id exposuerim, non potui repperire, et utrum sit in aliquo libro vel epistula mea nescio.
But after I returned from there, having spent fifteen days among my own people, who after my long absence compelled me to attend to other matters (for I had been permitted to return only after three months), I did not put off writing back about these things; and as for the questions you had sent me, which I had already treated in various small works of mine, I have given from those same works either the solution or at least my discussion of them. Finally, the one point alone where you ask why the Lord, who surely foreknew the future, said, I have chosen David according to my own heart (1 Sam 13:14), though that man had committed such great offenses—where I treated this and how I explained it, I could not find, and whether it is in any book or letter of mine I do not know.
DulcAc per hoc, quoniam mihi de hoc intulisti novae disputationis necessitatem, in hac mea rescriptione id ultimum feci, prius volens ea ponere quae habebam in aliis meis voluminibus praeparata, ut nec studio Tuae Sanctitatis deessem, quod mihi est gratissimum, nec alio modo eadem dicere cogerer, quod mihi esset laboriosissimum nec te aliquo amplius adiuvaret.
And for this reason, since you have laid upon me from this the necessity of a fresh discussion, I have put it last in this reply of mine, wishing first to set down what I had ready in my other volumes, so as neither to fail your Holiness in your zeal—which is most welcome to me—nor to be compelled to say the same things in another way, which would have been most laborious for me and would have helped you nothing further.
DulcQUAESTIO PRIMA
QUESTION ONE
An Baptizati peccatores exituri sint de gehenna.
Whether baptized sinners will come out of hell.
1. 1. Prima itaque propositio tua est: utrum aliquando, qui sint post Baptismum peccatores, exeant de gehenna. Aliquantorum namque super hoc, inquis, diversa sententia est, respondentium sicut iustorum praemium ita peccatorum finem non habere tormenta. Asseverare etenim cupiunt tam perpetem vindictam manere quam praemium. Quibus contra praescribitur evangelica illa sententia quae ait: 'non exies inde, donec reddas novissimum quadrantem (Mt 5, 26).'
1.1. Your first proposition, then, is this: whether at some point those who are sinners after baptism come out of hell. For on this matter, you say, there are differing opinions, some replying that, just as the reward of the just has no end, so neither do the torments of sinners. For they want to maintain that the punishment endures as eternally as the reward. Against these is set that gospel statement which says: 'you will not come out from there until you have paid the last penny (Matt 5:26).'
Dulc.1.1.1Superest ergo ut hoc reddito possit exire. Credimus hoc et Apostoli definitione dicentis: 'ipse autem salvus erit, sic tamen quasi per ignem (1 Cor 3, 15).'
It remains, then, that once this is paid one can come out. We believe this too from the Apostle's pronouncement, who says: 'but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire (1 Cor 3:15).'
Dulc.1.1.1Sed quoniam alibi legimus, inquis: 'et non cognovit eam, donec peperit (Mt 1, 25),' quod ita interpretari non possumus, idcirco de hoc cupimus fieri certiores. Huc usque est propositio tua.
But since we read elsewhere, you say: 'and he did not know her until she had brought forth (Matt 1:25),' which we cannot interpret in that way, we therefore desire to be made more certain about this. Thus far your proposition.
Dulc.1.1.11. 2. Cui respondeo ex libro meo qui inscribitur De fide et operibus, ubi de hac re ita locutus sum. Iacobus, inquam, tam vehementer infestus est eis qui sapiunt fidem sine operibus valere ad salutem, ut illos etiam daemonibus comparet dicens: 'tu credis quoniam unus est Deus: bene facis; et daemones credunt et contremiscunt (Iac 2, 19).'
1.2. To this I reply out of my book entitled Faith and Works, where I spoke as follows on this matter. James, I said, is so vehemently opposed to those who think that faith without works avails for salvation that he even compares them to the demons, saying: 'you believe that there is one God: you do well; the demons also believe and tremble (Jas 2:19).'
Dulc.1.1.2Quid brevius, verius, vehementius dici potuit, cum et in Evangelio legamus hoc dixisse daemonia, cum Christum Filium Dei confiterentur et ab illo corriperentur (Cf. Mt 8, 28-32; Mc 1, 24-25), quod in Petri confessione laudatum est (Cf. Mt 16, 16-17)?
What could be said more briefly, more truly, more forcefully, since in the Gospel too we read that the demons said this, when they confessed Christ to be the Son of God and were rebuked by him (See Matt 8:28-32; Mark 1:24-25)—the very thing that was praised in Peter's confession (See Matt 16:16-17)?
Dulc.1.1.2'Quid proderit,' ait Iacobus, 'fratres mei, si fide dicat se quis habere, opera autem non habeat? Numquid poterit fides salvare eum?'. Dicit etiam: 'Quia fides sine operibus mortua est (Iac 2, 14. 20).' Quousque igitur falluntur qui de fide mortua sibi vitam perpetuam pollicentur?
'What will it profit,' says James, 'my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can his faith save him?' He also says: 'that faith without works is dead (Jas 2:14, 20).' How far astray, then, are those who promise themselves eternal life from a dead faith?
Dulc.1.1.21. 3. Quapropter diligenter oportet attendere, quomodo accipienda sit Apostoli Pauli illa sententia, plane ad intellegendum difficilis, ubi ait: 'fundamentum enim aliud nemo potest ponere praeter id quod positum est, quod est Christus Iesus. Si quis autem superaedificat super fundamentum hoc g aurum, argentum, lapides pretiosos, ligna, fenum, stipulam, uniuscuiusque opus manifestabitur. Dies enim declarabit, quia in igne revelabitur, et uniuscuiusque opus quale sit ignis probabit. Si cuius opus manserit quod superaedificavit, mercedem accipiet; si cuius autem opus arserit, damnum patietur. Ipse autem salvus erit, sic tamen quasi per ignem (1 Cor 3, 11-15).'
1.3. Therefore we must attend diligently to how that statement of the Apostle Paul is to be taken—plainly difficult to understand—where he says: 'for no one can lay any other foundation than that which has been laid, which is Christ Jesus. But if anyone builds upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, each one's work will be made manifest. For the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed in fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one's is. If anyone's work that he has built up endures, he will receive a reward; but if anyone's work burns, he will suffer loss. He himself, however, will be saved, yet so as through fire (1 Cor 3:11-15).'
Dulc.1.1.2Quod quidam ita intellegendum putant, ut illi videantur aedificare super hoc fundamentum aurum, argentum, lapides pretiosos, qui fidei quae in Christo est bona opera adiciunt, illi autem ligna, fenum, stipulam, qui cum eamdem fidem habeant male operantur. Unde arbitrantur per quasdam poenas ignis eos posse purgari ad salutem percipiendam merito fundamenti.
Some think this is to be understood as follows: that those seem to build gold, silver, and precious stones upon this foundation who add good works to the faith that is in Christ, while those build wood, hay, and straw who, though they have the same faith, act wickedly. Hence they suppose that such people can be purified by certain punishments of fire so as to attain salvation by the merit of the foundation.
Dulc.1.1.21. 4. Hoc si ita est, fatemur istos laudabili caritate conari ut omnes indiscrete admittantur ad Baptismum, non solum adulteri et adulterae contra sententiam Domini falsas nuptias praetendentes, verum etiam publicae meretrices in turpissima professione perseverantes, quas certe nulla etiam neglegentissima Ecclesia consuevit admittere, nisi ab illa primitus prostitutione liberatas.
1.4. If this is so, we admit that these people, with a praiseworthy love, are striving to have all admitted to baptism without distinction—not only adulterers and adulteresses who put forward false marriages against the Lord's pronouncement, but even public prostitutes persisting in their most shameful profession, whom certainly no Church, however negligent, has been accustomed to admit unless they were first freed from that prostitution.
Dulc.1.1.2Sed ista ratione cur non omnimodo admittantur, omnino non video. Quis enim non malit eas posito fundamento, licet ligna et fenum et stipulam congerant, aliquanto certe diuturniore igne purgari quam in aeternum perire?
But on this reasoning I do not at all see why they should not be admitted in every case. For who would not prefer that they, with the foundation laid, even though they heap up wood and hay and straw, be purified by a fire that is at any rate somewhat more lasting, rather than perish forever?
Dulc.1.1.2Sed falsa erunt illa, quae obscuritatem ambiguitatemque non habent: 'si habeam omnem fidem, ita ut montes transferam, caritatem autem non habeam, nihil sum' (1 Cor 13, 2); et: 'quid proderit, fratres mei, si fidem quis dicat se habere, opera autem non habeat? Numquid poterit fides salvare eum? (Iac 2, 14).'
But then those texts would be false which have neither obscurity nor ambiguity: 'if I have all faith, so as to move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing' (1 Cor 13:2); and: 'what will it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can his faith save him? (Jas 2:14).'
Dulc.1.1.2Falsum erit et illud: 'nolite errare: neque fornicatores, neque idolis servientes, neque adulteri, neque molles, neque masculorum concubitores, neque fures, neque avari, neque ebriosi, neque maledici, neque rapaces regnum Dei possidebunt (1 Cor 6, 9-10).' Falsum et illud: 'manifesta sunt opera carnis, quae sunt fornicationes, immunditiae, impudicitia, luxuria, idolorum servitus, veneficia, inimicitiae, contentiones, aemulationes, animositates, dissensiones, hereses, invidiae, ebrietates comessationes, et his similia, quae praedico vobis, sicut et praedixi, quoniam qui talia agunt regnum Dei non possidebunt (Gal 5, 19-21).'
And that text too would be false: 'do not be deceived: neither fornicators, nor those who serve idols, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor men who lie with men, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor the abusive, nor the rapacious will possess the kingdom of God (1 Cor 6:9-10).' And that one false too: 'the works of the flesh are manifest, which are fornications, uncleannesses, shamelessness, debauchery, the service of idols, sorceries, enmities, quarrels, jealousies, animosities, dissensions, heresies, envyings, drunkenness, carousings, and the like, of which I forewarn you, as I have forewarned you, that those who do such things will not possess the kingdom of God (Gal 5:19-21).'
Dulc.1.1.2Falsa erunt haec. Si enim tantummodo credant et baptizentur, quamvis in malis talibus perseverent, salvi erunt per ignem; atque ideo in Christo Baptizati, etiam qui talia agunt, regnum Dei possidebunt. Frustra autem dicitur:
These would be false. For if they only believe and are baptized, even though they persist in such evils, they will be saved through fire; and so those who are baptized in Christ, even those who do such things, will possess the kingdom of God. But then it is said in vain:
Dulc.1.1.2Haec quidam fuistis, sed abluti estis (1 Cor 6, 11), 'quando et abluti haec sunt.'
And such were some of you, but you have been washed (1 Cor 6:11), 'though even when washed they are such things.'
Dulc.1.1.2Inaniter etiam illud a Petro dictum videbitur: 'sic et vos simili forma Baptisma salvos facit, non carnis depositio sordium sed conscientiae bonae interrogatio' (1 Pt 3, 21); siquidem et habentes pessimas conscientias omnium flagitiorum et scelerum plenas nec eorum malorum poenitentia mutatas, tamen Baptisma salvos facit; propter fundamentum enim quod in eodem Baptismate ponitur, licet per ignem, salvi erunt.
Pointless too will seem what Peter said: 'so baptism likewise saves you in a similar fashion—not the putting off of the filth of the flesh, but the appeal of a good conscience' (1 Pet 3:21); since even those who have the worst consciences, full of every disgrace and crime, and unchanged by repentance for those evils, are nonetheless saved by baptism; for on account of the foundation laid in that same baptism, though through fire, they will be saved.
Dulc.1.1.2Illud quoque non video, cur Dominus dixerit: 'si vis venire ad vitam, serva mandata (Mt 19, 17-19),' et commemoravit ea quae ad bonos mores pertinent, si etiam his non servatis ad vitam veniri potest per solam fidem, quae 'sine operibus mortua est.' Illud deinde quomodo verum erit, quod eis quos ad sinistram positurus est dicet:
This too I do not see: why the Lord said, 'if you would come to life, keep the commandments (Matt 19:17-19),' and recalled those that pertain to good conduct, if even without keeping these one can come to life through faith alone, which 'without works is dead.' And then, how will that be true which he will say to those whom he will set on his left:
Dulc.1.1.2'ite in ignem aeternum, qui paratus est diabolo et angelis eius'? Quibus non increpat quia in eum non crediderunt, sed quia bona opera non fecerunt.
'go into the eternal fire, which has been prepared for the devil and his angels'? He does not reproach them because they did not believe in him, but because they did not do good works.
Dulc.1.1.2Nam profecto ne sibi quisquam de fide, quae sine operibus mortua est, vitam promittat aeternam, propterea omnes gentes segregaturum se dixit, quae permixtae eisdem pascuis utebantur, ut appareat eos illi dicturos: 'Domine, quando te vidimus illa et illa patientem et non ministravimus tibi?', qui in eum crediderunt, sed bona operari non curaverunt, tamquam de ipsa fide mortua ad vitam perveniretur aeternam.
For surely, lest anyone promise himself eternal life from a faith that without works is dead, he said for this reason that he would separate all the nations, which had been using the same pastures intermingled, so that it might appear that those who said to him, 'Lord, when did we see you suffering this and that and did not minister to you?' are those who believed in him but took no care to do good works, as though one might attain eternal life from that very dead faith.
Dulc.1.1.2An forte ibunt in ignem aeternum qui opera misericordiae non fecerunt, et non ibunt qui aliena rapuerunt, vel corrumpendo in se templum Dei in se ipsos immisericordes fuerunt, quasi opera misericordiae prosint aliquid sine dilectione dicente Apostolo: 'si distribuam omnia mea pauperibus, caritatem autem non habeam, nihil mihi prodest' (1 Cor 13, 3), aut diligat quisquam proximum sicut se ipsum qui non diligit se ipsum?
Or will those go into eternal fire who did not do works of mercy, and those not go who plundered what belonged to others, or who, by corrupting the temple of God in themselves, were unmerciful toward themselves—as though works of mercy profit anything without love, when the Apostle says: 'if I distribute all I have to the poor but have not love, it profits me nothing' (1 Cor 13:3); or as though anyone loves his neighbor as himself who does not love himself?
Dulc.1.1.2'Qui enim diligit iniquitatem odit animam suam (Ps 10, 6).' Neque illud hic dici poterit, in quo nonnulli se ipsos seducunt, ignem aeternum dictum, non ipsam poenam aeternam. Per ignem quippe, qui aeternus erit, transituros arbitrantur eos quibus propter fidem mortuam per ignem promittunt salutem, ut videlicet ipse ignis aeternus sit, combustio vero eorum, hoc est operatio ignis, non sit in eis aeterna, cum et hoc praevidens Dominus tamquam Dominus sententiam suam ita concluserit dicens: 'sic ibunt illi in combustionem aeternam, iusti autem in vitam aeternam (Mt 25, 45-46).' Erit ergo aeterna combustio sicut ignis, et eos in illam ituros Veritas dixit, quorum non fidem sed bona opera defuisse declaravit. Locus Apostoli quomodo intelligendus.
'For he who loves iniquity hates his own soul (Ps 11:5 (10:6)).' Nor can that be said here in which some deceive themselves, namely, that 'eternal fire' was said, not eternal punishment itself. For they suppose that those to whom, on account of a dead faith, they promise salvation through fire will pass through a fire that will indeed be eternal, so that the fire itself is eternal but the burning of them—that is, the operation of the fire—is not eternal in them; whereas the Lord, foreseeing this too, as Lord concluded his pronouncement thus, saying: 'so these will go into eternal burning, but the just into eternal life (Matt 25:45-46).' The burning, then, will be eternal as the fire is, and the Truth said that those will go into it whose good works—not faith—he declared to be lacking. How the Apostle's passage is to be understood.
Dulc.1.1.21. 5. Si ergo haec omnia et cetera, quae innumerabilia per omnes Scripturas sine ambiguitate dicta reperiri possunt, falsa erunt, poterit verus esse ille intellectus de lignis et feno et stipula, quod hi salvi erunt per ignem, qui solam in Christo fidem tenentes bona opera neglexerunt. Si autem ista et vera et clara sunt, procul dubio in illa Apostoli sententia alius requirendus est intellectus, atque in his deputanda est, quae Petrus dicit esse in scriptis eius quaedam difficilia intellectu; quam non debent homines pervertere ad proprium suum interitum, ut contra evidentissima testimonia Scripturarum securos faciant de percipienda salute nequissimos, nequitiae suae pertinacissime cohaerentes nec emendando aut penitendo mutatos.
1.5. If, then, all these texts, and countless others that can be found stated without ambiguity throughout the Scriptures, are false, the true sense can be that interpretation about the wood and hay and straw, namely, that those will be saved through fire who, holding only faith in Christ, neglected good works. But if these texts are both true and clear, then beyond doubt another sense must be sought in that statement of the Apostle, and it is to be reckoned among those things which Peter says are in his writings hard to understand; which men ought not to pervert to their own destruction, so as, against the most evident testimonies of the Scriptures, to make the most wicked secure about attaining salvation while they cling most stubbornly to their wickedness, unchanged by amendment or repentance.
Dulc.1.1.21. 6. Hic a me fortasse quaeratur, de ipsa Pauli Apostoli sententia quid ego sentiam, et quonam modo intellegendam putem. Fateor malle me hinc audire intellegentiores atque doctiores, qui sic eam exponant, ut illa omnia vera et inconcussa permaneant, quae supra commemoravi et quaecumque alia non commemoravi,
1.6. Here it may perhaps be asked of me what I myself think about that statement of the Apostle Paul, and in what way I judge it should be understood. I confess that I would rather hear on this matter those more intelligent and learned, who would so expound it that all those things remain true and unshaken which I have recalled above, and whatever others I have not recalled,
Dulc.1.1.2quibus apertissime Scriptura testatur nihil prodesse fidem nisi eam quam definivit Apostolus, id est 'quae per dilectionem operatur (Gal 5, 6),' sine operibus autem salvare non posse, neque praeter ignem neque per ignem, quia si per ignem salvat, ipsa utique salvat. Absolute autem dictum est et aperte: 'quid prodest, si dicat quis fidem se habere, opera autem non habeat? Numquid poterit fides salvare eum?' (Iac 2, 14).
by which Scripture testifies most plainly that faith profits nothing except that faith which the Apostle defined, that is, 'which works through love (Gal 5:6),' and that without works it cannot save, neither apart from fire nor through fire, because if it saves through fire, then it is faith that saves. And it has been said absolutely and openly: 'what does it profit, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can his faith save him?' (Jas 2:14).
Dulc.1.1.2Dicam tamen quam brevissime potero, etiam ipse quid sentiam de illa sententia Pauli Apostoli ad intellegendum difficili, dummodo illud quod ad meam professionem attinet praecipue teneatur, quod de hac me malle dixi audire meliores.
Nevertheless I shall say, as briefly as I can, what I myself too think about that statement of the Apostle Paul, difficult to understand—provided that what pertains to my own profession be especially held to, namely, that I said I would rather hear better men on this.
Dulc.1.1.2Fundamentum Christus est in structura architecti sapientis. Hoc expositione non indiget; aperte enim dictum est: 'fundamentum enim aliud nemo potest ponere praeter id quod positum est, quod est Christus Iesus (1 Cor 3, 11).'
Christ is the foundation in the structure of the wise architect. This needs no exposition; for it has been openly stated: 'for no one can lay any other foundation than that which has been laid, which is Christ Jesus (1 Cor 3:11).'
Dulc.1.1.2Si autem Christus, procul dubio fides Christi; per fidem quippe habitat Christus in cordibus nostris, sicut idem Apostolus dicit (Cf. Eph 3, 17); porro si fides Christi, illa utique quam definivit Apostolus: 'quae per dilectionem operatur'; non enim fides illa daemonum, cum et ipsi credant et contremescant et Filium Dei confiteantur Iesum (Cf. Mt 8, 28-29), potest accipi in fundamento. Quare, nisi quia non est fides quae operatur per dilectionem, sed quae exprimitur per timorem? Fides itaque Christi, fides gratiae christianae, id est ea fides quae per dilectionem operatur, posita in fundamento neminem perire permittit.
But if Christ, then beyond doubt the faith of Christ; for through faith Christ dwells in our hearts, as the same Apostle says (See Eph 3:17); and further, if the faith of Christ, then surely that which the Apostle defined: 'which works through love'; for that faith of the demons—since they too believe and tremble and confess Jesus to be the Son of God (See Matt 8:28-29)—cannot be taken as the foundation. Why, except that it is not a faith that works through love, but one that is wrung out through fear? The faith of Christ, then—the faith of Christian grace, that is, the faith which works through love—placed in the foundation, allows no one to perish.
Dulc.1.1.2Sed quid sit aedificare super hoc fundamentum aurum, argentum, lapides pretiosos et ligna, fenum, stipulam, si subtilius disserere coner, vereor ne ad intellegendum difficilior sit ipsa expositio; enitar tamen, quantum Dominus adiuvat, et breviter et quantum potero dilucide expedire quod sentio.
But what it is to build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, and wood, hay, straw—if I should try to discuss it more subtly, I fear the exposition itself may be harder to understand; nevertheless I shall strive, as far as the Lord helps me, to set forth what I think both briefly and, as far as I can, clearly.
Dulc.1.1.2Ecce ille qui quaesivit a magistro bono, quid boni faceret ut haberet vitam aeternam, et audivit, si ad vitam venire vellet, servanda sibi esse mandata, et cum quaereret quae mandata, dictum est ei:
Consider the man who asked the good Teacher what good he should do that he might have eternal life, and heard that if he wished to come to life he must keep the commandments, and when he asked which commandments, was told:
Dulc.1.1.2'non occides, non moechaberis, non furtum facies, non falsum testimonium dices, honora patrem tuum et matrem tuam, et diliges proximum tuum tamquam te ipsum (Mt 19, 18-19).' Haec faciens in fide Christi teneret procul dubio fidem quae per dilectionem operatur. Neque enim diligeret proximum tamquam se ipsum nisi recepta dilectione Dei, sine qua non diligeret se ipsum.
'you shall not kill, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not bear false witness, honor your father and your mother, and you shall love your neighbor as yourself (Matt 19:18-19).' Doing these things in the faith of Christ, he would beyond doubt hold the faith which works through love. For he would not love his neighbor as himself unless he had received the love of God, without which he would not love himself.
Dulc.1.1.2Porro si faceret etiam quod Dominus addidit dicens: 'si vis perfectus esse, vade, vende omnia quae habes et da pauperibus, et habebis thesaurum in caelo; et veni, sequere me (Mt 19, 21),' aedificaret super illud fundamentum aurum, argentum, lapides pretiosos; non enim cogitaret nisi quae sunt Dei, quomodo placeret Deo; et hae cogitationes sunt, quantum existimo, aurum, argentum, lapides pretiosi.
Further, if he were also to do what the Lord added, saying: 'if you would be perfect, go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me (Matt 19:21),' he would build upon that foundation gold, silver, precious stones; for he would think of nothing but the things of God, how he might please God; and these thoughts are, as I judge, gold, silver, precious stones.
Dulc.1.1.2Porro si circa divitias suas quodam carnali teneretur affectu, quamvis ex eis multas elemosinas faceret, nec ad eas augendas fraudis aliquid rapinaeque moliretur, aut earum minuendarum vel amittendarum metu in aliquod facinus flagitiumve laberetur (alioquin iam se isto modo ab illius fundamenti stabilitate subtraheret), sed propter carnalem, ut dixi, quem in eis habebat affectum, quo talibus bonis sine dolore carere non posset, aedificaret super fundamentum illud ligna, fenum, stipulam, maxime si et uxorem sic haberet, ut etiam propter ipsam cogitaret ea quae sunt mundi, quomodo placeret uxori.
But if he were held by a certain carnal affection regarding his riches—even though out of them he gave many alms, and contrived no fraud or robbery to increase them, nor, through fear of diminishing or losing them, slipped into any crime or disgrace (otherwise he would by that very thing withdraw himself from the stability of that foundation)—but, as I said, on account of the carnal affection he had for them, by which he could not be without such goods without pain, he would build upon that foundation wood, hay, straw, especially if he also had a wife in such a way that on her account too he would think of the things of the world, how he might please his wife.
Dulc.1.1.2Haec igitur quoniam affectu dilecta carnali non sine dolore amittuntur, propterea qui ea sic habent, ut habeant in fundamento fidem quae per dilectionem operatur, neque huic ista ulla ratione vel cupiditate praeponant, in eorum amissione passi detrimentum per ignem quemdam doloris perveniunt ad salutem. A quo dolore atque detrimento tanto est quisque securior, quanto ea vel minus amaverit vel tamquam non habens habuerit (1 Cor 7, 29). Qui vero propter illa vel tenenda vel adipiscenda homicidium, adulterium, fornicationem, idolatriam et similia quaeque commiserit non propter fundamentum per ignem salvabitur, sed amisso fundamento aeterno igne torquebitur. Alius Apostoli locus frustra ab iis adductus, qui fidem sine operibus salvare docent.
These things, then, since loved with carnal affection they are not lost without pain, those who hold them in such a way—yet so as to have in the foundation the faith which works through love, and who in no way and by no desire prefer these things to it—when in their loss they have suffered detriment, come to salvation through a certain fire of pain. From which pain and detriment each one is the more secure the less he loved those things, or the more he held them as though not having them (1 Cor 7:29). But whoever, for the sake of keeping or gaining them, has committed murder, adultery, fornication, idolatry, and any such things, will not be saved through fire on account of the foundation, but, the foundation lost, will be tormented in eternal fire. Another passage of the Apostle vainly cited by those who teach that faith without works saves.
Dulc.1.1.21. 7. Quamobrem et illud quod dicunt, veluti probare cupientes quantum valeat sola fides, ubi Apostolus dicit: 'quod si infidelis discedit, discedat, non est enim servituti subiectus frater vel soror in huiusmodi (1 Cor 7, 15),' id est "ut propter fidem Christi etiam ipsa uxor legitima societate coniuncta sine ulla culpa relinquatur, si cum viro Christiano propter hoc quia christianus est permanere noluerit,"
1.7. Wherefore that text too which they cite, as if wishing to prove how much faith alone avails, where the Apostle says: 'but if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; for the brother or sister is not bound to servitude in such cases (1 Cor 7:15),' that is, "that for the sake of the faith of Christ even one's own lawful wife, joined in lawful union, may be left without any fault, if she should be unwilling to remain with a Christian husband for the very reason that he is a Christian"—
Dulc.1.1.2non attendunt eo modo illam rectissime dimitti, si viro suo dicat: Non ero uxor tua nisi mihi de latrocinio divitias congeras, aut nisi solita lenocinia quibus nostram domum transigebas etiam christianus exerceas; aut si quid aliud vel facinorosum vel flagitiosum in viro noverat, quo delectata vel libidinem explebat, vel facilem victum habebat, vel etiam incedebat ornatior.
they do not notice that she is most rightly dismissed in this way, if she should say to her husband: I will not be your wife unless you amass riches for me by robbery, or unless, even as a Christian, you carry on the usual pandering by which you used to maintain our house; or if she knew of anything else, criminal or disgraceful, in her husband by which, delighting in it, she either satisfied her lust, or had an easy living, or even went about more finely adorned.
Dulc.1.1.2Tunc enim ille cui hoc uxor dicit, si veraciter egit paenitentiam ab operibus mortuis, quando accessit ad Baptismum, habetque in fundamento fidem quae per dilectionem operatur, procul dubio plus tenebitur amore divinae gratiae quam carnis uxoriae, et membrum quod eum scandalizat fortiter amputat. Quemcumque autem in hac diremptione dolorem cordis propter carnalem affectum coniugis sustinebit, hoc est detrimentum quod patietur, hic est ignis per quem feno ardente ipse salvabitur. Si autem iam sic habebat uxorem tamquam non habens, non propter concupiscentiam sed propter misericordiam, ne forte eam salvam faceret, reddens potius quam exigens debitum coniugale, profecto nec dolebit carnaliter, cum ab illo tale connubium separabitur, neque enim in ea cogitabat nisi quae sunt Dei, quomodo placeret Deo (Cf. 1 Cor 7, 29-32). Ac per hoc in quantum aurum, argentum et lapides pretiosos illis cogitationibus superaedificabat, in tantum detrimentum nullum patietur, in tantum structura eius, quae non erat faenea, nullo incendio cremabitur.
For then the man to whom his wife says this, if he has truly done penance for dead works when he came to baptism, and has in the foundation the faith which works through love, will beyond doubt be held more by love of divine grace than of his wife's flesh, and he strongly cuts off the member that scandalizes him. But whatever pain of heart he sustains in this separation on account of the carnal affection for his spouse—this is the detriment he will suffer, this is the fire through which, the hay burning, he himself will be saved. But if he already held his wife as though not having her—not for the sake of concupiscence but for mercy, lest perchance he might save her, rendering rather than exacting the marriage debt—then surely he will not grieve carnally when such a union is severed from him, for he was thinking of nothing in her but the things of God, how he might please God (See 1 Cor 7:29-32). And to this extent, insofar as he was building gold, silver, and precious stones upon those thoughts, he will suffer no detriment; to that extent his structure, which was not of hay, will be consumed by no fire.
Dulc.1.1.21. 8. Sive ergo in hac tantum vita homines ista patiuntur, sive etiam post hanc vitam talia quaedam iudicia subsequuntur, non abhorret, quantum arbitror, a ratione veritatis iste intellectus huiusce sententiae. Verumtamen etiam si est alius qui mihi non occurrit potius eligendus, istum quamdiu tenemus, non cogimur dicere iniustis non subditis, scelestis contaminatis, parricidis, matricidis, homicidis, fornicatoribus, masculorum concubitoribus, plagiariis, mendacibus, periuris et si quid aliud sanae doctrinae adversatur, quae est secundum Evangelium gloriae beati Dei: 'si tantummodo in Christum credatis et sacramentum Baptismi eius accipiatis, etiamsi vitam istam pessimam non mutaveritis, salvi eritis (Cf. 1 Tim 1, 9-11).'
1.8. Whether, then, men suffer such things in this life only, or whether after this life too certain such judgments follow, this understanding of this statement is not, as I judge, repugnant to the reason of truth. Yet even if there is another that does not occur to me which should rather be chosen, so long as we hold this one we are not compelled to say to the unjust and insubordinate, to the wicked and defiled, to parricides, matricides, murderers, fornicators, men who lie with men, kidnappers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, which is according to the Gospel of the glory of the blessed God: 'if only you believe in Christ and receive the sacrament of his baptism, then even if you do not change this most wicked life of yours, you will be saved (See 1 Tim 1:9-11).'
Dulc.1.1.21. 9. Unde nec illa nobis mulier Chananea praescribit, quia Dominus ei quod petebat dedit, cum ante dixisset: 'non est bonum tollere panem filiorum et mittere canibus,' quia ille cordis inspector mutatam vidit, quando laudavit.
1.9. Hence neither does that Canaanite woman prescribe a rule for us, in that the Lord granted her what she asked, though he had first said: 'it is not good to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs,' because he, the searcher of hearts, saw her changed when he praised her.
Dulc.1.1.2Et ideo non ait: "O canis, magna est fides tua," sed: 'O mulier, magna est fides tua (Mt 15, 26.28).' Mutavit vocabulum, quia mutatum vidit affectum, atque illam correptionem ad fructum pervenisse cognovit.
And so he did not say, "O dog, great is your faith," but: 'O woman, great is your faith (Matt 15:26, 28).' He changed the word because he saw the disposition changed, and he recognized that that rebuke had borne fruit.
Dulc.1.1.2Miror autem, si laudaret in ea fidem sine operibus, id est fidem non talem quae per dilectionem posset operari, fidem mortuam et, quod Iacobus dicere minime dubitavit, fidem non Christianorum sed daemonum.
For I would marvel if he praised in her a faith without works—that is, a faith not of the kind that could work through love—a dead faith and, as James did not in the least hesitate to say, the faith not of Christians but of demons.
Dulc.1.1.2Postremo si istam Chananeam nolunt intellegere mutasse perditos mores, quando eam Christus contemnendo et corripiendo redarguit, quoscumque invenerint tantummodo credere, vitam vero inquinatissimam nec saltem occultare sed etiam libere profiteri ac nolle mutare, sanent filios eorum, si possunt, sicut sanata est filia Chananeae mulieris, non tamen eos faciant membra Christi, cum ipsi esse non desinant membra meretricis.
Finally, if they will not understand that this Canaanite woman changed her ruined ways when Christ refuted her by despising and rebuking her, then let them—whatever people they find who merely believe, while leading a most filthy life that they do not even conceal but freely profess and refuse to change—heal their children, if they can, as the daughter of the Canaanite woman was healed; yet let them not make them members of Christ, since they themselves do not cease to be members of a harlot.
Dulc.1.1.21. 10. Itemque in eo libro cuius titulus est: De fide, spe et caritate, quem scripsi ad filium meum fratrem tuum Laurentium, ista de hac re verba mea sunt. Creduntur, inquam, a quibusdam etiam hi, qui nomen Christi non relinquunt, et eius lavacro in Ecclesia baptizantur, nec ab ea ullo schismate vel haeresi praeciduntur, in quantislibet sceleribus vivant, quae nec diluant paenitendo nec elemosinis redimant, sed in eis usque ad huius vitae ultimum diem pertinacissime perseverent, salvi futuri per ignem, licet pro magnitudine facinorum flagitiorumque diuturno non tamen aeterno igne puniti.
1.10. Likewise in that book whose title is Faith, Hope, and Charity, which I wrote to my son, your brother Laurence, these words of mine bear on this matter. Some believe, I said, that even those who do not forsake the name of Christ and are baptized in his font in the Church, and are not cut off from it by any schism or heresy, however great the crimes in which they live—crimes they neither wash away by repenting nor redeem by alms, but persist in most stubbornly to the last day of this life—will yet be saved through fire, though punished, in proportion to the magnitude of their crimes and disgraces, by a fire that is long-lasting but not eternal.
Dulc.1.1.10Sed qui hoc credunt et tamen Catholici sunt, humana quadam benivolentia mihi falli videntur; nam Scriptura Divina aliud consulta respondet. Librum autem de hac quaestione conscripsi, cuius titulus est: De fide et operibus, ubi secundum Scripturas Sanctas, quantum Deo adiuvante potui, demonstravi eam fidem salvos facere, quam satis evidenter expressit Paulus Apostolus dicens: 'in Christo enim Iesu neque circumcisio quidquam valet neque praeputium, sed fides quae per dilectionem operatur (Cf. Iac 2, 19).' Si autem male non bene operatur, procul dubio secundum Apostolum Iacobum 'mortua est in semetipsa (Gal 5, 6).'
But those who believe this and yet are Catholics seem to me to be deceived by a certain human kindliness; for the divine Scripture, when consulted, answers otherwise. I have written a book on this question, whose title is Faith and Works, where, according to the holy Scriptures, as far as I could with God's help, I showed that the faith which saves is that which the Apostle Paul expressed clearly enough, saying: 'for in Christ Jesus neither circumcision avails anything nor uncircumcision, but faith which works through love (Gal 5:6).' But if it works wickedly, not well, then beyond doubt, according to the Apostle James, it 'is dead in itself (Jas 2:17).'
Dulc.1.1.10Qui rursus ait: 'si fidem quis dicat se habere, opera autem non habeat, numquid poterit fides salvare eum?' (Iac 2, 17. 14). Porro autem si homo sceleratus propter solam fidem per ignem salvatur, et sic est accipiendum quod ait beatus Paulus: 'ipse autem salvus erit, sic tamen quasi per ignem (1 Cor 3, 15),' poterit ergo salvare sine operibus fides, et falsum erit quod dixit eius coApostolus Iacobus, falsum erit et illud quod idem ipse Paulus: 'nolite,' inquit, 'errare: neque fornicatores, neque idolis servientes, neque adulteri, neque molles, neque masculorum concubitores, neque fures, neque avari, neque ebriosi, neque maledici, neque rapaces regnum Dei possidebunt (1 Cor 6, 9-10).' Si enim etiam in istis perseverantes criminibus tamen propter fidem Christi salvi erunt, quomodo in regno Dei non erunt?
And he again says: 'if someone says he has faith but does not have works, can his faith save him?' (Jas 2:17, 14). Furthermore, if a wicked man is saved through fire on account of faith alone, and what blessed Paul says is to be taken thus: 'but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire (1 Cor 3:15),' then faith will be able to save without works, and what his fellow Apostle James said will be false, and that also will be false which Paul himself says: 'do not,' he says, 'be deceived: neither fornicators, nor those who serve idols, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor men who lie with men, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor the abusive, nor the rapacious will possess the kingdom of God (1 Cor 6:9-10).' For if, even while persisting in these crimes, they will nevertheless be saved on account of the faith of Christ, how will they not be in the kingdom of God?
Dulc.1.1.101. 11. Sed quia haec Apostolica manifestissima et apertissima testimonia falsa esse non possunt, illud quod obscure dictum est de his qui superaedificant super fundamentum, quod est Christus, non aurum, argentum, lapides pretiosos, sed ligna, fenum, stipulam (de his enim dictum est quod per ignem salvi erunt, quoniam fundamenti merito non peribunt), sic est intellegendum, ut his manifestis non inveniatur esse contrarium.
1.11. But because these most manifest and most open apostolic testimonies cannot be false, that which was said obscurely about those who build upon the foundation, which is Christ, not gold, silver, precious stones, but wood, hay, straw (for of these it was said that they will be saved through fire, since by the merit of the foundation they will not perish), must be so understood that it not be found contrary to these manifest texts.
Dulc.1.1.10Ligna quippe et fenum et stipula non absurde accipi possunt rerum saecularium quamvis licite concessarum tales cupiditates, ut amitti sine animi dolore non possint.
For wood and hay and straw can not absurdly be taken to mean such desires for worldly things—even things lawfully permitted—as cannot be lost without pain of soul.
Dulc.1.1.10Cum autem iste dolor urit, si Christus in corde fundamenti habet locum, id est ut ei nihil anteponatur et malit homo qui tali dolore uritur rebus quas ita diligit magis carere quam Christo, per ignem fit salvus.
But when this pain burns, if Christ holds the place of the foundation in the heart—that is, if nothing is set before him, and the man who is burned by such pain would rather be without the things he so loves than without Christ—he is made safe through fire.
Dulc.1.1.10Si autem res huiusmodi temporales ac saeculares tempore tentationis maluerit tenere quam Christum, eum in fundamento non habuit, quia haec priore loco habuit, cum in aedificio prius non sit aliquid fundamento.
But if, in the time of temptation, he should choose to hold such temporal and worldly things rather than Christ, he did not have Christ in the foundation, because he held these in the first place, since in the building nothing comes before the foundation.
Dulc.1.1.10Ignis enim, de quo eo loco est locutus Apostolus, talis debet intellegi, ut ambo per eum transeant, id est et qui 'aedificat super hoc fundamentum aurum, argentum, lapides pretiosos' et qui 'aedificat ligna, fenum, stipulam.' Cum enim hoc dixisset, adiunxit: 'uniuscuiusque opus quale sit, ignis probabit. Si cuius opus permanserit, quod superaedificavit, mercedem accipiet. Si cuius autem opus exustum fuerit, damnum patietur: ipse autem salvus erit, sic tamen quasi per ignem (1 Cor 3, 13-15).' Non ergo unius eorum sed utriusque opus ignis probabit.
For the fire of which the Apostle spoke in that passage must be understood to be such that both pass through it, that is, both he who 'builds upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones' and he who 'builds wood, hay, straw.' For when he had said this, he added: 'the fire will test what sort each one's work is. If anyone's work that he has built up endures, he will receive a reward. But if anyone's work is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself, however, will be saved, yet so as through fire (1 Cor 3:13-15).' The fire, then, will test the work not of one of them but of both.
Dulc.1.1.101. 12. Est quidam ignis tentatio tribulationis, de quo aperte alio loco scriptum est: 'vasa figuli probat fornax, et homines iustos tentatio tribulationis (Eccli (Sir) 27, 5).' Iste ignis in hac interim vita facit quod Apostolus dixit, si accidat duobus fidelibus, uni scilicet cogitanti 'quae sunt Dei, quomodo placeat Deo,' hoc est aedificanti super Christum fundamentum aurum, argentum, lapides pretiosos, alteri autem cogitanti ea 'quae sunt mundi, quomodo placeat uxori (1 Cor 7, 32.33),' id est aedificanti super idem fundamentum ligna, fenum, stipulam: illius enim opus non exuritur, quia non ea dilexit quorum amissione crucietur, exuritur autem opus huius, quoniam sine dolore non pereunt quae cum amore possessa sunt.
1.12. There is a certain fire, the trial of tribulation, of which it is written plainly in another place: 'the furnace tests the potter's vessels, and the trial of tribulation tests just men (Sir 27:5).' This fire, meanwhile in this life, does what the Apostle said, if it befalls two believers—one, namely, thinking of 'the things of God, how he may please God,' that is, building upon Christ the foundation gold, silver, precious stones; the other thinking of the things 'of the world, how he may please his wife (1 Cor 7:32-33),' that is, building upon the same foundation wood, hay, straw: for the work of the former is not burned, because he did not love things by the loss of which he would be tormented; but the work of the latter is burned, since the things possessed with love do not perish without pain.
Dulc.1.1.10Sed quoniam alterutra condicione proposita eis potius mallet carere quam Christo, nec timore amittendi talia deserit Christum, quamvis doleat cum amittit, 'salvus est' quidem, 'sic tamen quasi per ignem,' quia urit eum dolor rerum quas dilexerat amissarum, sed non subvertit neque consumit fundamenti stabilitate atque incorruptione munitum.
But since, either condition being set before him, he would rather be without such things than without Christ, and through fear of losing such things does not forsake Christ, although he grieves when he loses them, he is indeed 'saved, yet so as through fire,' because the pain of the things he had loved and lost burns him, but does not overthrow or consume him, fortified as he is by the stability and incorruption of the foundation.
Dulc.1.1.101. 13. Tale aliquid etiam post hanc vitam fieri incredibile non est, et utrum ita sit quaeri potest, et aut inveniri aut latere nonnullos fideles per ignem quemdam purgatorium, quanto magis minusve bona pereuntia dilexerunt, tanto tardius citiusque salvari;
1.13. That something of this kind also takes place after this life is not incredible, and whether it is so can be inquired into—and it may either be found or remain hidden that some believers are saved through a certain purgatorial fire the more slowly or quickly the more or less they loved the perishing goods;
Dulc.1.1.10non tamen tales, de qualibus dictum est quod 'regnum Dei non possidebunt (1 Cor 6, 11),' nisi convenienter paenitentibus eadem crimina remittantur.
yet not such men as those of whom it was said that they 'will not possess the kingdom of God (1 Cor 6:9-10),' unless those same crimes are forgiven to those who fittingly repent.
Dulc.1.1.10'Convenienter' autem dixi ut steriles in elemosinis non sint, quibus tantum tribuit Scriptura Divina, ut earum tantummodo fructum se imputaturum praenuntiet Dominus dextris, et earum tantummodo sterilitatem sinistris, quando his dicturus est: 'venite, benedicti Patris mei, percipite regnum,' illis autem: 'ite in ignem aeternum (Mt 25, 34.41).'
And I said 'fittingly' so that they not be barren in almsgiving, to which divine Scripture attributes so much that the Lord foretells that he will reckon to those on his right only the fruit of almsgiving, and to those on his left only the barrenness of it, when he is about to say to these: 'come, blessed of my Father, receive the kingdom,' but to those others: 'go into the eternal fire (Matt 25:34, 41).'
Dulc.1.1.10Haec de duobus opusculis meis satis puto quaestioni tuae fuisse responsa.
I think these answers from my two small works are enough for your question.
Dulc.1.1.101. 14. De illa vero sententia Domini: non exies inde, donec solvas novissimum quadrantem (Mt 5, 26), respondere mihi necesse non fuit, quoniam ipse quaestionem simili ex Evangelio locutione solvisti, ubi scriptum est: non cognovit eam, donec peperit (Mt 1, 25).
1.14. But as for that statement of the Lord: you will not come out from there until you pay the last penny (Matt 5:26), it was not necessary for me to answer, since you yourself solved the question by a similar expression from the Gospel, where it is written: he did not know her until she had brought forth (Matt 1:25).
Dulc.1.1.14Sane ut non te celem de hac re cogitationem meam, vellem si fieri posset, immo vero volo si fieri potest, in hac quaestione veritate superari.
Indeed, that I may not hide my thinking from you on this matter: I would wish, if it could be, indeed I do wish, if it can be, to be overcome by truth in this question.
Dulc.1.1.14Illud enim quod dicitur, quandoque, etsi post plurimum temporis, eos qui in Catholica communione moriuntur, quamvis usque in finem vitae huius flagitiosissime et sceleratissime vixerint, de poenis ultricibus exituros, familiarius meum tangit affectum, quem habemus erga eos qui nobiscum corporis et sanguinis Christi sacramenta communicant, quamvis eorum mores perditos oderimus, quos disciplina ecclesiastica emendare non possumus aut a mensa dominica separare.
For that which is said—that at some point, even after a very long time, those who die in Catholic communion, although they lived to the end of this life most disgracefully and most wickedly, will come out of their avenging punishments—touches more intimately my affection, which we have toward those who share with us the sacraments of the body and blood of Christ, even though we hate their ruined ways, ways which we cannot correct by ecclesiastical discipline or separate from the Lord's table.
Dulc.1.1.14Sed ea veritate vinci volo, quae sacris Litteris apertissimis non resistit. Non enim quae resistit, dicenda est ulla ratione veritas vel putanda. Sed interim donec audiamus tale aliquid aut legamus, auscultemus ei qui dicit: nolite errare: neque fornicatores, neque idolis servientes, et cetera, regnum Dei possidebunt (1 Cor 6, 9-10).
But I wish to be overcome by that truth which does not resist the most open sacred Letters. For what resists these is not to be called or thought truth on any account. But meanwhile, until we hear or read something of the kind, let us hearken to him who says: do not be deceived: neither fornicators, nor those who serve idols, and so on, will possess the kingdom of God (1 Cor 6:9-10).
Dulc.1.1.14Quia si talia sunt quae contra dicuntur, ut horum verborum apostolicorum manifestationem in alios sensus ducere nequeant, profecto adversus ea nos instruxit et paratos esse voluit idem Apostolus dicens: hoc autem scitote intellegentes, quoniam omnis fornicator aut immundus aut avarus, quod est idolorum servitus, non habet haereditatem in regno Christi et Dei; nemo vos seducat inanibus verbis (Eph 5, 5-6).
For if the things urged on the contrary are such that they cannot lead the plain meaning of these apostolic words into some other sense, then surely the same Apostle has armed us against them and wished us to be ready, saying: but know this, understanding that no fornicator or unclean or covetous person—which is the service of idols—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God; let no one deceive you with empty words (Eph 5:5-6).
Dulc.1.1.14Cum ergo audierimus quosdam fornicatores et immundos et avaros per ignem salvari, ut habeant hereditatem in regno Christi et Dei, non obsurdescamus contra istum reclamantem et dicentem: omnis fornicator aut immundus aut avarus non habet hereditatem in regno Christi et Dei, et ne adquiescamus illis verbis, continuo subicientem: nemo vos seducat inanibus verbis.
When, therefore, we hear that certain fornicators and unclean and covetous persons are saved through fire so as to have an inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God, let us not turn deaf against him who cries out against this and says: no fornicator or unclean or covetous person has an inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God, and, lest we acquiesce in those other words, who at once adds: let no one deceive you with empty words.
Dulc.1.1.14QUAESTIO SECUNDA
QUESTION TWO
An mortuis prosit oblatio, quae fit pro ipsis.
Whether the offering made for the dead profits them.
2. 1. Secunda tua quaestio est: utrum oblatio quae fit pro quiescentibus, aliquid eorum conferat animabus, cum evidenter nostris aut sublevemur actibus aut gravemur, si quidem legamus quod in inferno nemo iam possit Domino confiteri.
2.1. Your second question is this: whether the offering made for those at rest confers anything on their souls, since clearly we are either helped or burdened by our own actions, if indeed we read that in hell no one can any longer confess to the Lord.
Dulc.1.2.1Ad quod multi dicunt quod si aliquid beneficii in hoc possit esse post mortem, quanto magis sibi anima ferret ipsa refrigerium sua per se illic confitendo peccata, quam in eorum refrigerium ab aliis oblatio procuratur.
To which many say that if any benefit could come from this after death, how much more would the soul itself bring refreshment to itself by confessing its sins there in person than be procured refreshment by an offering made by others.
Dulc.1.2.12. 2. Dixi de hac re aliquid in eo libro quem nuper ad sanctum Paulinum Nolanum episcopum scripsi, cum me consuluisset, utrum sepultura quae fit in memoriis martyrum prosit aliquid spiritibus mortuorum.
2.2. I have said something on this matter in the book I recently wrote to the holy Paulinus, bishop of Nola, when he had consulted me whether burial made in the memorial shrines of the martyrs profits anything to the spirits of the dead.
Dulc.1.2.2Inde est hoc quod his ad te litteris insero. Diu, inquam, Sanctitati tuae, coepiscope venerande Pauline, rescriptorum debitor fui, ex quo mihi scripsisti per homines filiae nostrae religiosissimae Florae, quaerens a me utrum prosit cuique post mortem, quod corpus eius apud sancti alicuius memoriam sepelitur.
Hence comes this which I insert in this letter to you. For a long time, I said, I have been a debtor to your Holiness of a reply, venerable fellow bishop Paulinus, ever since you wrote to me through the people of our most devout daughter Flora, asking me whether it profits anyone after death that his body is buried near the memorial shrine of some saint.
Dulc.1.2.2Hoc enim abs te vidua memorata petierat pro defuncto in eis partibus suo filio, et rescripseras consolans eam, idque etiam nuntians de cadavere fidelis iuvenis Cynegii, quod materno et pio affectu desideravit esse completum, ut scilicet in beatissimi Felicis confessoris basilica poneretur.
For the widow I have mentioned had asked this of you on behalf of her son who died in those parts, and you had written back consoling her, and also reporting concerning the body of the faithful young man Cynegius that, with a maternal and pious affection, she had desired it be carried out—namely, that it be laid in the basilica of the most blessed confessor Felix.
Dulc.1.2.2Qua occasione factum est, ut per eosdem perlatores litterarum tuarum etiam mihi scriberes, ingerens huiuscemodi quaestionem atque, ut responderem quid inde mihi videretur, exposcens nec tacens ipse quid sentias. Nam dicis videri tibi non esse inanes motus animorum religiosorum atque fidelium pro suis ista curantium.
On which occasion it came about that, through the same bearers of your letter, you also wrote to me, raising a question of this kind and demanding that I answer what seemed to me about it, while not yourself keeping silent as to what you think. For you say it seems to you that the impulses of religious and faithful souls who attend to these things for their own are not empty.
Dulc.1.2.2Adiungis etiam vacare non posse quod universa pro defunctis Ecclesia supplicare consuevit, ut hinc et illud conici possit homini prodesse post mortem, si fide suorum humando eius corpori talis provideatur locus, in quo appareat opitulatio etiam isto modo quaesita sanctorum.
You add also that what the whole Church has been accustomed to entreat for the dead cannot be without point, so that from this too it can be inferred that it profits a man after death if, by the faith of his own people, such a place is provided for the burying of his body in which the help of the saints, even sought in this way, may appear.
Dulc.1.2.22. 3. Sed cum haec ita sint, quomodo huic opinioni contrarium non sit quod ait Apostolus: 'omnes enim astabimus ante tribunal Christi, ut ferat unusquisque secundum ea quae per corpus gessit, sive bonum sive malum (2 Cor 5, 10),' non te satis videre significas.
2.3. But although these things are so, how this is not contrary to what the Apostle says you indicate that you do not sufficiently see: 'for we shall all stand before the tribunal of Christ, that each may receive according to what he has done through the body, whether good or evil (2 Cor 5:10).'
Dulc.1.2.2Haec quippe apostolica sententia ante mortem admonet fieri quod possit prodesse post mortem, non tunc quando iam recipiendum est quod quisque gesserit ante mortem. Verum haec ita solvitur quaestio, quoniam quodam vitae genere acquiritur, dum in hoc corpore vivitur, ut aliquid adiuvent ista defunctos; ac per hoc secundum ea quae per corpus gesserunt eis quae post corpus religiose pro illis facta fuerint adiuvantur.
For this apostolic statement admonishes that what can profit after death be done before death—not then, when what each has done before death is now to be received. But this question is solved thus: by a certain manner of life acquired while one lives in this body, it comes about that these things help the dead; and so, according to the things they have done through the body, they are helped by what is done piously for them after the body.
Dulc.1.2.2Sunt enim quos nihil omnino adiuvant ista, sive pro eis fiant quorum tam mala sunt merita, ut nec talibus digni sint adiuvari, sive pro eis quorum tam bona, ut talibus non indigeant adiumentis. Genere igitur vitae quod gessit quisque per corpus efficitur, ut prosint vel non prosint quaecumque pro illo pie fiunt, cum reliquerit corpus. Nam meritum per quod ista prosint, si nullum comparatum est in hac vita, frustra post hanc quaeritur vitam.
For there are those whom these things help nothing at all, whether they are done for those whose merits are so evil that they are not even worthy to be helped by such things, or for those whose merits are so good that they do not need such helps. It is, then, by the manner of life that each has led through the body that it is brought about that whatever is done piously for him profits or does not profit when he has left the body. For the merit by which these things profit, if none has been acquired in this life, is sought in vain after this life.
Dulc.1.2.2Ita fit ut neque inaniter Ecclesia vel suorum cura pro defunctis quod potuerit religionis impendat, et tamen ferat 'unusquisque secundum ea quae per corpus gessit, sive bonum sive malum,' reddente Domino unicuique secundum opera eius. Ut enim hoc quod impenditur possit ei prodesse post corpus, in ea vita est acquisitum quam gessit in corpore.
Thus it comes about that the Church, or the care of one's own, does not vainly expend for the dead whatever it can of religious observance, and yet 'each receives according to what he has done through the body, whether good or evil,' the Lord rendering to each according to his works. For that what is expended may profit him after the body, it was acquired in the life he led in the body.
Dulc.1.2.22. 4. Dixi etiam tale aliquid ad Laurentium, quod ita se habet: tempus autem, inquam, quod inter hominis mortem et ultimam resurrectionem interpositum est animas abditis receptaculis continet, sicut unaquaeque digna est vel requie vel aerumna pro eo quod sortita est in carne dum viveret.
2.4. I have also said something of this kind to Laurence, which runs thus: but the time, I said, that is interposed between a man's death and the final resurrection holds the souls in hidden receptacles, as each is worthy of rest or of hardship in proportion to what it has obtained in the flesh while it lived.
Dulc.1.2.4Neque negandum est defunctorum animas pietate suorum viventium relevari, cum pro illis sacrificium Mediatoris offertur vel elemosinae in Ecclesia fiunt.
Nor is it to be denied that the souls of the dead are relieved by the piety of their living relations, when the sacrifice of the Mediator is offered for them or alms are given in the Church.
Dulc.1.2.4Sed eis haec prosunt qui cum viverent haec sibi, ut postea possent prodesse, meruerunt. Est enim quidam vivendi modus nec tam bonus, ut non requirat ista post mortem, nec tam malus, ut ei non prosint ista post mortem, est vero talis in bono, ut his non requirat, est rursus talis in malo, ut nec his valeat cum haec vita transierit, adiuvari.
But these things profit those who, while they lived, merited that these might afterward be able to profit them. For there is a certain manner of living neither so good that it does not require these things after death, nor so evil that these do not profit it after death; there is, however, such a manner in good that it does not require these things, and again such a manner in evil that, when this life has passed, one cannot be helped by these things either.
Dulc.1.2.4Quocirca hic omne meritum comparatur, quo possit post hanc vitam relevari quispiam vel gravari. Nemo se autem praeparet, quod hic neglexit, cum obierit Dominum promereri.
Wherefore here is acquired every merit by which one can be relieved or burdened after this life. But let no one hope to merit from the Lord, when he has died, what he neglected here.
Dulc.1.2.4Non igitur ista quae pro defunctis commendandis frequentat Ecclesia illi apostolicae sunt adversa sententiae, qua dictum est: 'omnes enim astabimus ante tribunal Christi, ut ferat unusquisque secundum ea quae per corpus gessit, sive bonum sive malum' (Ibidem) quia etiam hoc meritum sibi quisque, cum in corpore viveret comparavit, ut ei possent ista prodesse. Non enim omnibus prosunt.
These things, then, which the Church practices for commending the dead, are not contrary to that apostolic statement in which it was said: 'for we shall all stand before the tribunal of Christ, that each may receive according to what he has done through the body, whether good or evil' (2 Cor 5:10) because this merit too each one acquired for himself while he lived in the body, that these things might be able to profit him. For they do not profit all.
Dulc.1.2.4Et quare non omnibus prosunt, nisi propter differentiam vitae quam quisque gessit in corpore?
And why do they not profit all, except on account of the difference of the life each led in the body?
Dulc.1.2.4Cum ergo sacrificia sive altaris sive quarumcumque elemosinarum pro baptizatis defunctis omnibus offeruntur, pro valde bonis gratiarum actiones sunt, pro non valde malis propitiationes sunt, pro valde malis, etiam si nulla sunt adiumenta mortuorum, qualescumque vivorum consolationes sunt.
When, therefore, the sacrifices either of the altar or of any alms whatever are offered for all the baptized dead, for the very good they are thanksgivings, for the not very bad they are propitiations, and for the very bad, even if they are no help to the dead, they are some sort of consolations to the living.
Dulc.1.2.4Quibus autem prosunt, aut ad hoc prosunt, ut sit plena remissio, aut certe ut tolerabilior fiat ipsa damnatio.
But for those whom they do profit, they profit either to this end, that there be full remission, or at least that the very damnation be made more bearable.
Dulc.1.2.4QUAESTIO TERTIA
QUESTION THREE
Utrum in adventu Domini mox futurum sit iudicium, anve illi morituri sint, qui rapientur in nubibus obviam Domino.
Whether at the Lord's coming the judgment will take place at once, or whether those who will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord are going to die.
3. 1. Tertia tua quaestio est: Utrum statim in adventu Domini credendum sit futurum esse iudicium an spatio interposito temporis. In cuius diebus adventus quoniam legimus, inquis, quod qui superabunt, " rapientur in nubibus obviam Christo in aera et sic semper cum Domino futuri sunt " (1 Thess 4, 17), nosse desidero, utrum mox iudicium comitetur adventum, et hi qui rapientur in nubes an solvantur in mortem, nisi forte ad vicem mortis ipsam immutationem debeamus accipere.
3.1. Your third question is this: whether it is to be believed that the judgment will be at once at the Lord's coming, or after an interval of time has been interposed. Since in the days of his coming we read, you say, that those who survive 'will be caught up in the clouds to meet Christ in the air, and so will be forever with the Lord' (1 Thess 4:17), I wish to know whether the judgment follows immediately upon the coming, and whether those who will be caught up in the clouds are dissolved in death—unless perhaps we ought to take that very change itself in place of death.
Dulc.1.3.13. 2. Huic interrogationi tuae, qua quaeris utrum in adventu Domini mox credendum sit futurum esse iudicium, puto quod sufficiat fides Symboli, qua confitemur Christum a Patris dextera esse venturum ad vivos et mortuos iudicandos. Cum ergo ipsa sit ei causa veniendi, quid aliud acturus est mox ut venerit nisi propter quod veniet?
3.2. To this question of yours, in which you ask whether at the Lord's coming the judgment is at once to be believed to be at hand, I think the faith of the Creed suffices, by which we confess that Christ will come from the right hand of the Father to judge the living and the dead. Since, then, this is itself his reason for coming, what else will he do as soon as he comes but that for which he comes?
Dulc.1.3.2De illis autem qui rapientur in nubibus in quadam epistula, quam scripsi ad filium meum nomine Mercatorem procul dubio notissimum vobis, cum me consuluisset de quibusdam quaestionibus Pelagianorum, qui negant mortem peccato esse retributam,
But concerning those who will be caught up in the clouds, in a certain letter which I wrote to my son named Mercator, beyond doubt very well known to you, when he had consulted me about certain questions of the Pelagians, who deny that death was meted out as the recompense of sin,
Dulc.1.3.2quatenus disputaverim, in subditis lege: illi autem, inquam, de quibus dixit Apostolus, cum loqueretur de resurrectione mortuorum: 'et nos viventes qui reliqui sumus, simul cum illis rapiemur in nubibus obviam Christo in aera, et ita semper cum Domino erimus (1 Thess 4, 16),'
read in what follows how far I discussed it: but those, I said, of whom the Apostle spoke when he was treating of the resurrection of the dead: 'and we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet Christ in the air, and so we shall be forever with the Lord (1 Thess 4:16),'
Dulc.1.3.2adferunt quidem aliquid quaestionis, sed per se ipsos non propter istos.
do indeed raise a certain question, but in themselves, not on account of those people.
Dulc.1.3.2Nam et si non sunt etiam ipsi morituri, quid istos adiuvent omnino non video, cum talia de his dici possint, qualia de illis dicta sunt duobus, Enoch scilicet et Helia.
For even if these too are not going to die, I do not at all see how they help those people, since such things can be said of these as were said of those two, namely, Enoch and Elijah.
Dulc.1.3.2Sed re vera, quantum ad verba beati Apostoli pertinet, videtur asserere quosdam in fine saeculi adveniente Domino, cum futura est resurrectio mortuorum, non esse morituros,
But in truth, so far as concerns the words of the blessed Apostle, he seems to assert that certain people, when the Lord comes at the end of the age, when the resurrection of the dead is to take place, are not going to die,
Dulc.1.3.2sed vivos repertos in illam immortalitatem, quae sanctis etiam ceteris datur, repente mutandos et simul cum illis rapiendos, sicut dicit, in nubibus. Nec aliquid aliud mihi visum est, quotiens de his verbis volui cogitare.
but, found alive, are to be suddenly changed into that immortality which is given to the rest of the saints as well, and to be caught up together with them, as he says, in the clouds. Nor has anything else ever seemed so to me, as often as I have wished to ponder these words.
Dulc.1.3.23. 3. Sed vellem hinc potius audire doctiores, ne illis etiam, qui putant aliquos morte non praecedente vivificatos ad vitam perpetuam transituros, dicere inveniatur Apostolus: 'stulte, tu quod seminas non vivificatur nisi moriatur (1 Cor 15, 36).' Nam et illud, quod in plerisque codicibus legitur: 'omnes resurgemus (1Cor 15, 51),' unde fieri poterit, nisi omnes moriamur?
3.3. But I would rather hear on this the more learned, lest the Apostle be found saying even to those who think that some, without death preceding, are to be made alive and to pass over to perpetual life: 'fool, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies (1 Cor 15:36).' For that too which is read in very many manuscripts: 'we shall all rise again (1 Cor 15:51),' how can it come about unless we all die?
Dulc.1.3.2Resurrectio quippe, nisi mors praecesserit, nulla est. Et quod nonnulli codices habent: 'omnes dormiemus,' multo facilius et apertius id cogit intellegi; et si quid aliud tale in Sanctis Litteris invenitur, ad id videtur impellere, ut nullus hominum existimetur immortalitatem, nisi mors praecesserit, adepturus. Proinde ubi dixit Apostolus: 'et nos viventes qui reliqui sumus in adventu Domini non praeveniemus eos qui ante dormierunt.'
For there is no resurrection unless death has preceded. And what some manuscripts have: 'we shall all sleep,' compels this to be understood much more easily and openly; and if anything else of the sort is found in the sacred Letters, it seems to drive toward this: that no man be thought to attain immortality unless death has preceded. Accordingly, when the Apostle said: 'and we who are alive, who are left at the coming of the Lord, will not go before those who have fallen asleep.'
Dulc.1.3.2Ipse enim Dominus in iussu, in voce archangeli et in tuba Dei descendet de caelo, et mortui in Christo resurgent primi, deinde nos viventes qui reliqui sumus simul cum illis rapiemur in nubibus obviam Christo in aera, et ita semper cum Domino erimus (1 Thess 4, 14-16);
For the Lord himself, at the command, at the voice of the archangel, and at the trumpet of God, will descend from heaven, and the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet Christ in the air, and so we shall be forever with the Lord (1 Thess 4:14-16);
Dulc.1.3.2vellem, sicut dixi, de his verbis audire doctiores et, si mihi potuerint haec ita exponi, ut in eis possit intellegi omnes homines qui vivunt vel post nos victuri sunt esse morituros, corrigerem quod hinc aliquando aliter sensi. Neque enim debemus indociles esse doctores; et certe melius homo corrigitur parvus quam frangitur durus, cum his quae scribimus ita nostra vel aliorum exerceatur et erudiatur infirmitas, ut tamen in eis nulla velut canonica constituatur auctoritas.
I would wish, as I said, to hear the more learned on these words, and if these things could be so expounded to me that in them it could be understood that all men who are living, or who are to live after us, are going to die, I would correct what I once thought otherwise on this point. For we ought not to be unteachable teachers; and surely a man is better corrected as a little one than broken as a hard one, since by the things we write our own weakness, or that of others, is so exercised and instructed that yet no canonical authority, as it were, is established in them.
Dulc.1.3.23. 4. Si autem in his verbis Apostoli nullus alius sensus potuerit repperiri, et hoc eum intellegi voluisse claruerit quod videntur verba ipsa clamare, id est quod futuri sint in fine saeculi et adventu Domini qui non expolientur corpore sed superinduantur immortalitate, ut absorbeatur mortale a vita (Cf. 2 Cor 5, 4),
3.4. But if in these words of the Apostle no other sense could be found, and it became clear that he wished this to be understood which the words themselves seem to proclaim—that is, that there will be at the end of the age and at the coming of the Lord those who are not stripped of the body but clothed over with immortality, that the mortal may be swallowed up by life (See 2 Cor 5:4)—
Dulc.1.3.2huic sententiae procul dubio conveniet quod in regula fidei confitemur venturum Dominum iudicaturum vivos et mortuos (Cf. 2 Tim 4, 1), ut non hic intellegamus vivos iustos, mortuos autem iniustos, quamvis iudicandi sint iusti et iniusti, sed vivos quos nondum exisse, mortuos autem quos iam exisse de corporibus adventus eius inveniet.
then to this sense will beyond doubt accord what in the rule of faith we confess, that the Lord will come to judge the living and the dead (See 2 Tim 4:1), so that here we understand not the living as the just and the dead as the unjust—although the just and the unjust are to be judged—but the living as those whom his coming finds not yet departed from their bodies, and the dead as those whom it finds already departed.
Dulc.1.3.2Quae si ita esse constiterit, illa verba excutienda erunt, quomodo sic accipiamus: 'tu quod seminas non vivificatur nisi moriatur' (1 Cor 15, 36, 51), et: 'omnes resurgemus,' sive: 'omnes dormiemus' (1Cor 15, 51), ut non adversentur huic sententiae, qua quidam creduntur etiam cum suis corporibus in aeternum non gustata morte victuri.
If this should be established as so, then those words must be sifted, how we are to take them: 'what you sow is not made alive unless it dies' (1 Cor 15:36, 51), and: 'we shall all rise again,' or: 'we shall all sleep (1 Cor 15:51),' so that they not be contrary to this sense, by which some are believed to be going to live forever even with their bodies, without tasting death.
Dulc.1.3.23. 5. Sed utrumlibet horum veracior et perspicacior intellectus inveniatur, quid ad causam pertinet istorum sive omnes debita morte plectantur sive aliquibus ab hac condicione parcatur, cum tamen constet mortem non solum animae verum etiam corporis secuturam non fuisse, si peccatum non praecessisset, et gratiae mirabiliore virtute iustos a morte ad aeternam beatitudinem reviviscere, quam in mortis experientiam non venire?
3.5. But whichever of these is found to be the truer and more perceptive understanding, what does it matter to the case of those people, whether all are smitten with the death that is due, or whether some are spared this condition—since it is nonetheless established that death, not only of the soul but also of the body, would not have followed had sin not preceded, and that it is by a more marvelous power of grace that the just are restored to life from death unto eternal blessedness than that they should not come into the experience of death at all?
Dulc.1.3.2Haec propter illos de quibus mihi scripsisti satis dicta sint, quamvis eos iam non existimem dicere, etiam si non peccasset Adam, fuisse vel corpore moriturum.
Let this be said enough on account of those of whom you wrote to me, although I no longer think they say that even if Adam had not sinned he would have died in body.
Dulc.1.3.23. 6. Ceterum quod attinet ad quaestionem resurrectionis, propter illos qui creduntur non esse morituri, sed ex hac mortalitate ad immortalitatem sine morte media transituri, inquisitio diligentior adhibenda est; et si quid hinc absolutum ac definitum disputatione rationabili atque perfecta vel audisti vel legisti vel etiam ipse excogitare potuisti, sive adhuc audire aut legere aut excogitare potueris, peto mihi mittere non graveris.
3.6. For the rest, as to what pertains to the question of the resurrection, on account of those who are believed not to be going to die but to pass over from this mortality to immortality with no death intervening, a more diligent inquiry must be applied; and if you have heard or read anything settled and definite on this from a reasonable and complete discussion, or have even been able to think it out yourself—or if you should yet be able to hear or read or think it out—I beg you not to find it burdensome to send it to me.
Dulc.1.3.2Ego enim, quod confitendum est Caritati Tuae, plus amo discere quam docere; nam hoc admonemur etiam dicente Apostolo Iacobo: 'sit autem omnis homo velox ad audiendum, tardus autem ad loquendum (Iac 1, 19).' Ut ergo discamus, invitare nos debet suavitas veritatis; ut autem doceamus, cogere necessitas caritatis, ubi potius optandum est, ut transeat ista necessitas qua hominem docet aliquid homo, et simus omnes dociles Deo (Cf. Io 6, 45), quamvis hoc simus, cum ea quae ad veram pietatem pertinent discimus, etiam quando illa docere videtur homo. Quia 'neque qui plantat est aliquid, neque qui rigat, sed qui incrementum dat Deus (1 Cor 3, 7).' Cum itaque, si Deus incrementum non daret, nihil essent Apostoli plantatores et rigatores; quanto magis ego vel tu vel quilibet huius temporis homines, quando nobis videmur esse doctores.
For I—as must be confessed to your Charity—love to learn more than to teach; for we are admonished of this by the Apostle James also, who says: 'let every man be quick to hear, but slow to speak (Jas 1:19).' That we may learn, then, the sweetness of truth ought to invite us; but that we may teach, the necessity of love ought to compel us, where it is rather to be wished that this necessity by which a man teaches a man something might pass away, and that we may all be taught of God (See John 6:45)—though we are this even when we learn the things that pertain to true piety, even when a man seems to teach them. For 'neither is he who plants anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the growth (1 Cor 3:7).' Since, then, if God did not give the growth, the Apostles who plant and water would be nothing, how much more I or you or any men of this age, when we seem to ourselves to be teachers.
Dulc.1.3.2QUAESTIO QUARTA
QUESTION FOUR
Quomodo iustorum filiis in Psalmo benedicitur.
How the children of the just are blessed in the Psalm.
4. 1. Quarta tua quaestio est: quare dixerit David: 'potens in terra erit semen eius, generatio rectorum benedicetur (Ps 111, 2),' cum sciamus iustorum filios et fuisse et esse maledictos, et iniustorum et fuisse et esse benedictos.
4.1. Your fourth question is this: why David said: 'his seed will be mighty in the land, the generation of the upright will be blessed (Ps 112:2 (111:2)),' since we know that the children of the just both have been and are cursed, and those of the unjust both have been and are blessed.
Dulc.1.4.14. 2. Huic quaestioni de Psalmi ipsius expositione respondeo, quem cum in populo tractarem dixi: 'beatus' enim 'vir qui timet Dominum, in mandatis eius volet nimis (Ps 111, 1).' Viderit Deus, qui solus et veraciter et misericorditer iudicat, quantum iste proficiat in mandatis eius; quoniam 'tentatio est vita humana super terram " (Iob 7, 1), sicut sanctus Iob dicit;
4.2. To this question I reply from the exposition of that very Psalm, which, when I was treating it before the people, I said: 'blessed' indeed is 'the man who fears the Lord; in his commandments he will delight greatly (Ps 112:1 (111:1)).' God, who alone judges both truly and mercifully, will see how far this man advances in his commandments; since 'human life upon earth is a trial (Job 7:1),' as holy Job says;
Dulc.1.4.2et iterum scriptum est: 'quoniam corpus, quod corrumpitur, aggravat animam, et deprimit terrena inhabitatio sensum multa cogitantem (Sap 9, 15).' Qui autem diiudicat nos Dominus est; nec ante tempus iudicare debemus, donec veniat Dominus, et illuminet abscondita tenebrarum, et manifestabit cogitationes cordis; 'et tunc laus erit unicuique a Deo (Cf. 1 Cor 4, 4-5).'
and again it is written: 'for the body that is corrupted weighs down the soul, and the earthly dwelling presses down the mind that ponders many things (Wis 9:15).' But it is the Lord who judges us; nor ought we to judge before the time, until the Lord comes, and lights up the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the thoughts of the heart; 'and then each will have praise from God (See 1 Cor 4:4-5).'
Dulc.1.4.2Viderit ergo ille, quantum quisque proficiat in mandatis eius, tamen volet nimis qui pacem illius coaedificationis adamaverit, nec iam desperare debet, quoniam 'in mandatis eius volet nimis,' et 'pax in terra hominibus bonae voluntatis (Cf. Lc 2, 14).'
Let him, then, see how far each one advances in his commandments; yet he will delight greatly who has come to love the peace of that building together, nor ought he now to despair, since 'in his commandments he will delight greatly,' and 'peace on earth to men of good will (See Luke 2:14).'
Dulc.1.4.24. 3. Inde 'potens in terra erit semen eius.' Semen futurae messis opera esse misericordiae Apostolus testis est qui dicit: 'bonum autem facientes non deficiamus; tempore enim proprio metemus (Gal 6, 9),' et iterum: 'hoc autem,' inquit, 'qui parce seminat, parce et metet (2 Cor 9, 6).'
4.3. Hence 'his seed will be mighty in the land.' That the seed of the future harvest is works of mercy, the Apostle is witness, who says: 'but in doing good let us not grow weary; for in due season we shall reap (Gal 6:9),' and again: 'but this,' he says, 'he who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly (2 Cor 9:6).'
Dulc.1.4.2Quid autem, fratres, potentius, quam ut regnum caelorum non solum Zacheus emat dimidio rerum suarum (Cf. Lc 19, 8) sed et vidua duobus minutis (Cf. Mc 12, 42), et tantundem ibi uterque possideat?
But what, brethren, is mightier than that not only Zacchaeus should buy the kingdom of heaven with half his goods (See Luke 19:8), but the widow too with two small coins (See Mark 12:42), and that each should there possess just as much?
Dulc.1.4.2Quid potentius, quam ut idem regnum et thesauris divitis (Cf. Mc 13, 44) et calice aquae frigidae pauperis valeat? (Cf. Mc 10, 42) Sunt autem qui ista faciant, dum terrena conquirunt, aut hic mercedem sperantes a Domino aut hominibus placere cupientes sed:
What is mightier than that the same kingdom should be within reach both of the rich man's treasures (See Matt 13:44) and of the poor man's cup of cold water? (See Matt 10:42) But there are those who do these things while seeking earthly gain, either hoping here for a reward from the Lord or desiring to please men; but:
Dulc.1.4.2'generatio rectorum benedicetur,' id est opera eorum quorum bonus Deus Israel, quia recto sunt corde
'the generation of the upright will be blessed,' that is, the works of those whose God, the God of Israel, is good, because they are upright in heart
Dulc.1.4.2(rectum autem cor est non resistere patri emendanti et credere pollicenti), non eorum quibus commoventur pedes et effunduntur gressus atque labuntur, sicut in alio psalmo canitur, dum zelant in peccatoribus pacem peccatorum videntes (Cf. Ps 72, 1 ss), et putant perire opera sua, quia non eis merces redditur peritura.
(but to be upright in heart is not to resist the Father when he corrects, and to believe him when he promises), not the works of those whose feet are moved and whose steps are poured out and slip, as is sung in another psalm, while they are jealous, seeing the peace of sinners among sinners (See Ps 73:2-3 (72:2-3)), and think that their own works perish, because no perishable reward is rendered to them.
Dulc.1.4.2At iste vir qui timet Dominum, et in templum sanctum Dei conversione recti cordis aptatur, nec gloriam hominum quaerit, nec terrenas divitias concupiscit, et tamen 'gloria et divitiae in domo eius.' Domus enim eius cor eius est, ubi Deo laudante opulentius habitat cum spe vitae aeternae, quam hominibus adulantibus in marmoratis laqueatisque tectis cum timore mortis aeternae. Huius enim 'iustitia manet in saeculum saeculi' (Cf. Ps 111, 1-3): ipsa eius gloria, ipsae divitiae. Illius autem purpura et byssus et epulae splendidae, et cum praesto sunt transeunt, et cum ad finem venerint, aquae guttam ex digito stillantem desiderans, ardens lingua clamabit (Cf. Lc 16, 19. 24). Haec sunt quae in dicto psalmo exposuisse me memini et ad quaestionis tuae quarto loco propositae solutionem satis esse nunc existimo.
But that man who fears the Lord, and is fitted into the holy temple of God by the turning of an upright heart, neither seeks the glory of men nor covets earthly riches, and yet 'glory and riches are in his house.' For his house is his heart, where, with God praising him, he dwells more richly with the hope of eternal life than the man who, with men flattering him, dwells in marbled and paneled ceilings with the fear of eternal death. For this man's 'righteousness abides forever and ever' (See Ps 112:1-3 (111:1-3)): that is his very glory, those his riches. But the other man's purple and fine linen and splendid feasts both pass away when they are at hand, and when they have come to their end, his burning tongue, longing for a drop of water trickling from a finger, will cry out (See Luke 16:19, 24). These are the things I remember having expounded in the said psalm, and I think them now enough for the solution of your question proposed in the fourth place.
Dulc.1.4.2Quinto autem loco id proposuisti unde post omnia disputaturum me esse promisi.
But in the fifth place you proposed that point which I promised to discuss after all the rest.
Dulc.1.4.2QUAESTIO SEXTA
QUESTION SIX
Utrum Samuel per pytonissam vere fuerit de inferno evocatus.
Whether Samuel was truly called up from hell through the medium.
6. 1. Sexta tua propositio est: utrum iuxta historiam libri Regnorum pytonissa ipsum prophetam Samuelem de inferno evocaverit (Cf. 1 Reg 28, 7-19).
6.1. Your sixth proposition is this: whether, according to the narrative of the books of Kingdoms, the medium called up the prophet Samuel himself from hell (See 1 Sam 28:7-19).
Dulc.1.6.16. 2. Hoc a me beatae memoriae Simplicianus Mediolanensis episcopus aliquando quaesivit. Quid ergo ei responderim, subditum lege. Item quaeris, inquam, utrum spiritus immundus qui erat in pythonissa potuerit agere, ut Samuel a Saule videretur et loqueretur cum eo (Ibidem).
6.2. This Simplicianus, bishop of Milan, of blessed memory, once asked of me. What, then, I answered him, read below. Likewise you ask, I said, whether the unclean spirit that was in the medium could bring it about that Samuel should be seen by Saul and should speak with him (See 1 Sam 28:7-19).
Dulc.1.6.2Sed multo maioris miraculi est quod ipse satanas princeps immundorum omnium spirituum potuit loqui cum Deo et petere tentandum Iob iustissimum virum (Cf. Iob 1, 11), qui etiam apostolos tentandos petiit (Lc 22, 31).
But it is a much greater wonder that Satan himself, the prince of all unclean spirits, was able to speak with God and to ask to tempt Job, that most just man (See Job 1:11)—he who asked also to tempt the Apostles (Luke 22:31).
Dulc.1.6.2Aut si hoc ideo non habet difficilem quaestionem, quia per quam voluerit creaturam cui voluerit creaturae ubique praesens veritas loquitur, nec propterea magni meriti est cui loquitur Deus;
Or if for this reason it presents no difficult question, because the everywhere-present Truth speaks to whatever creature it wills through whatever creature it wills, and it is not therefore a sign of great merit that God speaks to someone;
Dulc.1.6.2interest enim quid loquatur, quia et imperator cum multis innocentibus non loquitur, quibus providentissime consulit ad salutem, et cum multis nocentibus loquitur, quos iubet interfici, si ergo hinc propterea nulla quaestio est, nulla sit quaestio, quomodo etiam immundus spiritus cum anima sancti viri loqui potuerit. Omnibus enim sanctis Deus Creator et Sanctificator longe utique maior est.
for it matters what he speaks, since an emperor too does not speak with many innocent men, for whose welfare he most providently provides, and does speak with many guilty men, whom he orders to be put to death—if, then, for this reason there is no question here, let there be no question how even an unclean spirit could speak with the soul of a holy man. For God, the Creator and Sanctifier of all the saints, is by far the greater.
Dulc.1.6.2Quod si hoc movet, quod licuerit maligno spiritui excitare animam iusti et tamquam de abditis mortuorum receptaculis evocare, nonne magis mirandum est quod satanas ipsum Dominum assumpsit et constituit super pinnam Templi (Cf. Mt 4, 5)?
But if this troubles us, that it should be permitted to a malign spirit to rouse the soul of a just man and, as it were, to call it up from the hidden receptacles of the dead, is it not rather to be wondered at that Satan took up the Lord himself and set him upon the pinnacle of the Temple (See Matt 4:5)?
Dulc.1.6.2Quolibet enim modo fecerit, ille etiam modus, quo Samueli factum est ut excitaretur, similiter latet, nisi forte quis dixerit faciliorem diabolo fuisse licentiam ad Dominum vivum unde voluit assumendum et ubi voluit constituendum quam ad Samuelis defuncti spiritum a suis sedibus excitandum.
For in whatever way he did it, that manner too, in which it came about that Samuel was roused, lies hidden in the same way—unless perhaps someone should say that it was an easier license for the devil to take up the living Lord from where he willed and set him down where he willed than to rouse the spirit of the dead Samuel from its seat.
Dulc.1.6.2Quod si illud in Evangelio nos ideo non perturbat, quia Dominus voluit atque permisit nulla deminutione suae potestatis et divinitatis id fieri, sicut ab ipsis Iudaeis, quamquam perversis atque immundis et facta diaboli facientibus, et teneri se et vinciri et illudi et crucifigi atque interfici passus est, non est absurdum credere ex aliqua dispensatione divinae voluntatis permissum fuisse, ut non invitus nec dominante atque subiugante magica potentia, sed volens atque obtemperans occultae dispositioni Dei quae pythonissam illam et Saulem latebat, consentiret spiritus prophetae sancti se ostendi aspectibus regis divina eum sententia percussurus.
But if that incident in the Gospel does not disturb us for this reason, that the Lord willed and permitted it to be done with no diminution of his power and divinity—just as he suffered himself to be held and bound and mocked and crucified and put to death by the very Jews, perverse and unclean as they were and doing the works of the devil—then it is not absurd to believe that, by some dispensation of the divine will, it was permitted that the spirit of the holy prophet, not unwilling nor under the domination and subjugation of magical power, but willing and obeying the hidden disposition of God which lay hidden from that medium and from Saul, should consent to be shown to the sight of the king, being about to smite him with the divine sentence.
Dulc.1.6.2Cur enim anima boni hominis, a malis vivis evocata si venerit, amittere videatur dignitatem suam, cum et vivi plerumque boni vocati ad malos veniant et agant cum eis quod officium postulat aequitatis, servato atque inconcusso decore virtutis suae et illorum vitiis pro rerum praesentium vel usu vel necessitate tractatis?
For why should the soul of a good man, if it comes when called up by living evil men, seem to lose its dignity, when even living good men are often summoned to the wicked and do with them what the duty of fairness requires, the dignity of their virtue preserved and unshaken, while the others' vices are dealt with according to the use or the necessity of present circumstances?
Dulc.1.6.26. 3. Quamquam in hoc facto potest esse alius facilior exitus et expeditior intellectus, ut non vere spiritum Samuelis excitatum a requie sua credamus, sed aliquod phantasma et imaginariam illusionem diaboli machinationibus factam, quam propterea Scriptura nomine Samuelis appellat, quia solent imagines earum rerum nominibus appellari, quarum imagines sunt;
6.3. And yet in this incident there can be another easier way out and a readier understanding, namely, that we should believe that the spirit of Samuel was not truly roused from its rest, but that some phantasm and imaginary illusion was produced by the devil's contrivances, which Scripture for this reason calls by the name of Samuel, because images are accustomed to be called by the names of the things of which they are images;
Dulc.1.6.2sicut omnia quae pinguntur atque finguntur ex aliqua materie metalli aut ligni vel cuiuscumque rei aptae ad opera huiusmodi quae etiam videntur in somnis, et omnes fere imagines earum rerum quarum imagines sunt appellari nominibus solent.
just as all things that are painted or fashioned out of some material of metal or wood or anything else suited to works of this kind—things that are also seen in dreams—and nearly all images are accustomed to be called by the names of the things of which they are images.
Dulc.1.6.2Quis enim est qui hominem pictum dubitet vocare hominem? Quando quidem et singulorum quorumque picturam cum aspicimus, propria quoque nomina incunctanter adhibemus, velut cum intuentes tabulam aut parietem dicimus: Ille Cicero est, ille Sallustius, ille Achilles, ille Hector, hoc flumen Simois, illa Roma, cum aliud nihil sint quam pictae imagines.
For who is there who would hesitate to call a painted man a man? Since indeed, when we look at the picture of any particular persons, we unhesitatingly apply their proper names as well, as when, gazing on a panel or a wall, we say: That is Cicero, that is Sallust, that is Achilles, that is Hector, this river is the Simois, that is Rome—though they are nothing but painted images.
Dulc.1.6.2Unde cherubim, cum sint caelestes potestates, fictae tamen ex metallo, quod imperavit Deus, super Arcam Testamenti magnae rei significandae gratia, non aliud quam Cherubim illa quoque figmenta vocitantur (Cf. Ex 25, 18).
Hence the cherubim, though they are heavenly powers, yet fashioned out of metal—as God commanded—over the Ark of the Covenant for the sake of signifying a great matter, those figures too are called nothing other than Cherubim (See Exod 25:18).
Dulc.1.6.2Item quisquis vidit somnium non dicit: "vidi imaginem Augustini aut Simpliciani," sed: "vidi Augustinum aut Simplicianum," cum eo tempore, quo tale aliquid vidit, nos ignoraremus: usque adeo manifestum est non ipsos homines sed imagines eorum videri.
Likewise whoever has seen a dream does not say, "I saw an image of Augustine or of Simplicianus," but, "I saw Augustine or Simplicianus," although at the time he saw such a thing we knew nothing of it: so manifest is it that not the men themselves but their images are seen.
Dulc.1.6.2Et Pharao spicas se dixit vidisse in somnis et boves (Cf. Gen 41, 17-28), non spicarum aut boum imagines. Si igitur liquido constat nominibus earum rerum quarum imagines sunt easdem imagines appellari, non mirum est quod Scriptura dicit Samuelem visum, etiamsi forte imago Samuelis apparuit machinamento eius qui transfigurat se velut angelum lucis et ministros suos velut ministros iustitiae (Cf. 2 Cor 11, 14-15).
And Pharaoh said that he had seen in dreams ears of grain and oxen (See Gen 41:17-28), not images of ears or of oxen. If, therefore, it is clearly established that images are called by the names of the things of which they are images, it is no wonder that Scripture says Samuel was seen, even if perhaps an image of Samuel appeared by the contrivance of him who transforms himself, as it were, into an angel of light, and his ministers into ministers of righteousness (See 2 Cor 11:14-15).
Dulc.1.6.26. 4. Iam vero si illud movet, quomodo et a maligno spiritu Sauli vera praedicta sunt, potest et illud mirum videri, quomodo daemones agnoverint Christum (Cf. Mt 8, 29), quem Iudaei non agnoscebant. Cum enim vult Deus etiam per infimos infernosque spiritus aliquem vera cognoscere, temporalia dumtaxat atque ad istam mortalitatem pertinentia, facile est et non incongruum, ut omnipotens et iustus ad eorum poenam quibus ista praedicuntur, ut malum quod eis impendet, antequam veniat praegnoscendo patiantur, occulto apparatu ministeriorum suorum etiam spiritibus talibus aliquid divinationis impertiat, ut quod audiunt ab angelis praenuntient hominibus.
6.4. But now, if this troubles us, how even by a malign spirit true things were foretold to Saul, that too can seem a wonder, how the demons recognized Christ (See Matt 8:29), whom the Jews did not recognize. For when God wills that someone should know true things—at any rate temporal things and things pertaining to this mortal life—even through the lowest and infernal spirits, it is easy and not unfitting that the almighty and just God, for the punishment of those to whom these things are foretold (so that they may suffer the evil that hangs over them by foreknowing it before it comes), should, by the hidden ordering of his ministries, impart some power of divination even to such spirits, so that what they hear from the angels they may foretell to men.
Dulc.1.6.2Tantum autem audiunt, quantum omnium Dominus atque moderator vel iubet vel sinit. Unde etiam spiritus pytonius in Actibus Apostolorum attestatur Paulo Apostolo et evangelista esse conatur (Cf. Act 16, 17). Miscent tamen isti fallacias, et verum quod nosse potuerint non docendi magis quam decipiendi fine praenuntiant.
But they hear only so much as the Lord and Governor of all either commands or permits. Hence even the python spirit in the Acts of the Apostles bears witness to the Apostle Paul and tries to be an evangelist (See Acts 16:17). Yet these spirits mingle in deceits, and what truth they could come to know they foretell with the end not so much of teaching as of deceiving.
Dulc.1.6.2Et forte hoc est quod, cum illa imago Samuelis Saulem (1 Reg 28, 20) praediceret moriturum, dixit etiam secum futurum, quod utique falsum est. Magno quippe intervallo post mortem separari bonos a malis in Evangelio legimus, cum Dominus inter superbum illum divitem, cum iam apud inferos tormenta pateretur, et illum qui ad eius ianuam ulcerosus iacebat iam in requie constitutum magnum chaos interiectum esse testatur (Cf. Lc 16, 21). Aut si propterea Samuel Sauli dixit: 'mecum eris (1 Reg 28, 19),' ut non ad aequalitatem felicitatis, sed ad parem condicionem mortis referatur, quod uterque homo fuerit et uterque mori potuerit, iamque mortuus mortem vivo praenuntiabat.
And perhaps this is why, when that image of Samuel foretold to Saul (1 Sam 28:20) that he would die, it said also that he would be with him—which is certainly false. For in the Gospel we read that the good are separated from the bad by a great interval after death, since the Lord testifies that between that proud rich man, when he was now suffering torments in hell, and that ulcerous man who had lain at his gate, now set in rest, a great chasm was fixed between them (See Luke 16:21). Or if Samuel said to Saul: 'you will be with me (1 Sam 28:19),' this is to be referred not to an equality of happiness but to a like condition of death—that each was a man and each could die, and that, being now dead, he was foretelling death to the living man.
Dulc.1.6.2Perspicit, quantum opinor, Prudentia tua secundum utrumque intellectum habere exitum illam lectionem qui non sit contra fidem, nisi forte profundiore et perplexiore inquisitione, quae vel virium mearum vel temporis excedit angustias, inveniatur ad liquidum vel posse vel non posse animam humanam, cum ex hac vita emigraverit, magicis carminibus evocatam vivorum apparere conspectibus etiam corporis liniamenta gestantem, ut non solum videri valeat sed et agnosci
Your Prudence perceives, I think, that according to either understanding that passage has a way out which is not contrary to faith—unless perhaps, by a deeper and more intricate inquiry, which exceeds either my powers or the narrow limits of my time, it should be found clearly whether or not a human soul, when it has departed from this life, can be called up by magical incantations to appear to the sight of the living, even bearing the lineaments of the body, so that it can not only be seen but also recognized
Dulc.1.6.2(et si potest, utrum etiam iusti anima non quidem cogatur magicis sacris, sed dignetur ostendi occultioribus imperiis summae legis obtemperans),
(and, if it can, whether even the soul of a just man, not indeed compelled by magical rites, but deigning to show itself by more hidden commands as it obeys the supreme law),
Dulc.1.6.2ut si fieri non posse claruerit, non uterque sensus in huius Scripturae tractatione atque expositione admittatur, sed illo excluso imaginaria simulatio Samuelis diabolico ritu facta intellegatur.
so that, if it should become clear that this cannot be done, then not both senses are to be admitted in the treatment and exposition of this Scripture, but, that one excluded, an imaginary simulation of Samuel produced by diabolical rite is to be understood.
Dulc.1.6.2Sed quoniam, sive illud fieri possit sive non possit, tamen fallacia satanae atque imaginum simulandarum callida operatio decipiendis humanis sensibus multiformis invigilat, pedetentim quidem ne inquisitionibus diligentioribus praescribamus, sed tamen potius existimemus tale aliquid factum maligno pythonissae illius ministerio, quamdiu nobis aliquid amplius excogitare atque explicare non datur.
But since, whether this can be done or cannot be done, nonetheless the deceit of Satan and the cunning operation of simulating images keeps watch in manifold ways to deceive the human senses, let us indeed proceed step by step, lest we prescribe in advance against more diligent inquiries, but let us nonetheless rather suppose that some such thing was done by the malign ministry of that medium, so long as it is not granted us to think out and explain anything further.
Dulc.1.6.26. 5. Haec sunt quae tunc de pythonissa et Samuele rescripsi. Sed quam non frustra dixerim, pedetentim nos in hac re gesta simulatam Samuelis imaginem maligno pytonissae ministerio praesentatam existimare debere, ne inquisitionibus diligentioribus praescribamus, mea posterior inquisitio declaravit, quando inveni in libro Ecclesiastico, ubi Patres laudantur ex ordine, ipsum Samuelem sic fuisse laudatum, ut prophetasse etiam mortuus diceretur (Cf. Eccli 46, 20). Sed si huic libro ex Hebreorum, quia in eorum non est canone, contradicitur; quid de Moyse dicturi sumus, qui certe et in Deuteronomio mortuus (Cf. Deut 24, 5), et in Evangelio cum Elia qui mortuus non est, legitur apparuisse viventibus? (Mt 17, 3)
6.5. These are the things I then wrote back about the medium and Samuel. But that it was not without reason that I said we ought to suppose, step by step in this episode, that a simulated image of Samuel was presented by the malign ministry of the medium, lest we prescribe in advance against more diligent inquiries—my later inquiry has made clear, when I found in the book of Ecclesiasticus, where the Fathers are praised in order, that Samuel himself was so praised that he was said to have prophesied even when dead (See Sir 46:20). But if this book is contradicted on the ground of the Hebrews, because it is not in their canon, what shall we say of Moses, who certainly both is read to have died in Deuteronomy (See Deut 34:5) and, in the Gospel, together with Elijah—who did not die—is read to have appeared to the living? (Matt 17:3)
Dulc.1.6.5QUAESTIO SEPTIMA
QUESTION SEVEN
Quomodo stuprum Abimelech et Pharaonis effugit Sara.
How Sarah escaped defilement by Abimelech and Pharaoh.
7. 1. Septima tua propositio est: qualiter satisfaciendum sit his qui dicunt Saram stuprum non effugisse, cum dicant Abimelech ab eius conventione somnio esse revocatum (Cf. Gen 12, 14-20), et immissum in eius copulam Pharaonem (Cf. Gen 12, 15-19)?
7.1. Your seventh proposition is this: how those are to be answered who say that Sarah did not escape defilement, since they say that Abimelech was recalled from intercourse with her by a dream (See Gen 20), but that Pharaoh was admitted to union with her (See Gen 12:15-19)?
Dulc.1.7.17. 2. Quomodo dicant immissum in eius copulam Pharaonem, non video, cum ad hoc credendum Scriptura non cogat. Accepit enim eam quidem in uxorem, continuoque ditatus est Abraham multis Aegyptiorum muneribus propter illam; sed non scriptum est, quod cum ea Pharao dormierit eique permixtus sit, quoniam Deus multis et magnis eum cladibus affligendo id facere non permisit.
7.2. How they say that Pharaoh was admitted to union with her, I do not see, since Scripture does not compel us to believe this. For he indeed took her as wife, and Abraham was at once enriched on her account with many gifts of the Egyptians; but it is not written that Pharaoh slept with her and was joined to her, since God did not permit him to do this, afflicting him with many and great calamities.
Dulc.1.7.2Non enim placitae regibus ad coniugium feminae mox etiam carne copulabantur. Sed, sicut legimus in libro qui praenotatur Hester, per aliquot menses, immo per totum annum unguentis, pigmentis, aromatis accurabantur earum corpora, priusquam corpori regio miscerentur (Cf. Esth 2, 12-13). Hoc ergo spatio facta sunt illa quae scripta sunt, donec Pharao contritus et exterritus marito restituisset uxorem (Cf. Gen 12, 19).
For women who pleased kings for marriage were not at once joined to them in the flesh as well. But, as we read in the book entitled Esther, for several months—indeed for a whole year—their bodies were treated with ointments, perfumes, and aromatics before they were united to the royal body (See Esth 2:12-13). In this interval, then, those things took place which are written, until Pharaoh, crushed and terrified, restored the wife to her husband (See Gen 12:19).
Dulc.1.7.2Abimelech autem quoniam somnio est ab eius commixtione prohibitus (Cf. Gen 20, 3-4), ideo qui Saram stuprum non vitasse contendunt, putant utique regem, ut somniaret, nonnisi post eius concubitum dormire potuisse. Quasi vero, ut omittam tempus quo accurabantur, ut supra dixi, ad voluptatem regiam corpora feminarum, non potuit Deus, priusquam convenirent, eum mergere in somnum et admonere per somnium.
But as for Abimelech, since he was forbidden intercourse with her by a dream (See Gen 20:3-4), those who contend that Sarah did not avoid defilement suppose that the king could not have slept, so as to dream, except after lying with her. As though, to say nothing of the time during which, as I said above, the bodies of women were treated for the royal pleasure, God could not, before they came together, plunge him into sleep and admonish him through a dream.
Dulc.1.7.27. 3. Dicam quod factum est in Mauritania Sitifensi. Neque enim Deus sanctorum Patrum non ipse est etiam Deus noster. Viduam in proposito continentiae constitutam Celticius quidam cathecumenus iuvenis rapuit, ut haberet uxorem. Antequam concumberent pressus somno et territus somnio, Sitifensi episcopo eamdem vehementissime requirenti revocavit intactam.
7.3. I will tell what happened in Mauretania Sitifensis. For the God of the holy Fathers is none other than our God as well. A certain young catechumen named Celticius seized a widow who had resolved upon a life of continence, that he might have her as his wife. Before they lay together, weighed down by sleep and terrified by a dream, he gave her back untouched to the bishop of Sitifis, who was most vehemently demanding her.
Dulc.1.7.3Vivunt adhuc de quibus loquor. Ille baptizatus et ipso in se facto miraculo conversus ad Dominum, ad episcopatum venerabili probitate pervenit, illa in sancta viduitate persistit.
Those of whom I speak are still living. He, baptized and converted to the Lord by the very miracle worked in him, came by his venerable uprightness to the episcopate; she perseveres in holy widowhood.
Dulc.1.7.37. 4. Quid autem dixerim Contra Faustum Manichaeum, cum calumniaretur patri Abrahae, quod uxorem suam duobus regibus ad concubitum venditasset, indicant quae subieci. Quod autem iustum, inquam, et fidelem virum matrimonii sui infamissimum nundinatorem appellans, avaritiae ac ventris causa duobus regibus, Abimelech et Pharaoni diversis temporibus Saram coniugem suam sororem mentitum, quia erat pulcherrima, in concubitum asserit venditasse, non ore veridico a turpitudine separat honestatem, sed ore maledico totum vertit in crimen.
7.4. But what I said in Answer to Faustus the Manichee, when he slandered father Abraham for having sold his wife to two kings for intercourse, the passage I have appended will show. But that he, I said, calling a just and faithful man the most disgraceful trafficker in his own marriage, asserts that, for the sake of greed and his belly, he lyingly called Sarah, his most beautiful wife, his sister, and sold her for intercourse to two kings, Abimelech and Pharaoh, at different times—this does not, with a truthful mouth, separate honor from baseness, but with a slanderous mouth turns the whole into a crime.
Dulc.1.7.4Hoc enim Abrahae factum lenocinio simile videtur, sed non valentibus ex illius aeternae Legis lumine a peccatis recte facta discernere, quibus et constantia, pertinacia videri potest, et virtus fiduciae vitium putatur audaciae, et quaecumque similiter obiciuntur quasi non recte agentibus a non recte cernentibus.
For this deed of Abraham seems like pandering—but only to those who are unable to discern by the light of that eternal law deeds rightly done from sins; to whom even constancy can seem obstinacy, and the virtue of confidence is reckoned the vice of audacity, and whatever else is likewise charged against men as if not acting rightly by those who do not discern rightly.
Dulc.1.7.4Neque enim Abraham flagitio consensit uxoris eiusque vendidit adulterium; sed sicut illa famulam suam non libidini mariti permisit, sed officio generandi ultro intulit (Cf.Gen 16, 1-3) nequaquam turbato ordine naturali, ubi eius potestas erat, iubens potius oboedienti quam cedens concupiscenti; sic et ipse coniugem castam et casto corde sibi cohaerentem, de cuius animo, ubi pudicitiae virtus habitat, nullo modo dubitabat,
For neither did Abraham consent to his wife's disgrace and sell her to adultery; but just as she handed over her maidservant not to her husband's lust but, of her own accord, brought her in for the office of begetting (See Gen 16:1-3)—with the natural order in no way disturbed, where her power lay, commanding the obedient one rather than yielding to one who lusted—so he too, his wife being chaste and clinging to him with a chaste heart, of whose mind, where the virtue of modesty dwells, he in no way doubted,
Dulc.1.7.4tacuit uxorem dixit sororem, ne se occiso ab alienigenis atque impiis captiva possideretur, certus de Deo suo quod nihil eam turpe ac flagitiosum perpeti sineret.
kept silent that she was his wife and said she was his sister, lest, when he was slain by foreigners and impious men, she be possessed as a captive—being certain of his God that he would not allow her to suffer anything base or disgraceful.
Dulc.1.7.4Nec eum fides ac spes fefellit. Namque Pharao territus monstris multisque propter eam malis afflictus, ubi eius esse uxorem divinitus didicit, illaesam cum honore restituit; Abimelech autem somnio commonitus, et edoctus similiter fecit (Cf. Gen 12, 12-19; 20, 2-16).
Nor did faith and hope deceive him. For Pharaoh, terrified by portents and afflicted with many evils on her account, when he learned by divine means that she was his wife, restored her unharmed and with honor; and Abimelech, admonished by a dream and likewise instructed, did the same (See Gen 12:12-19; 20:2-16).
Dulc.1.7.4QUAESTIO OCTAVA
QUESTION EIGHT
Denique de Spiritu Dei, qui superferebatur super aquam, an ipse sit Spiritus Sanctus.
Finally, concerning the Spirit of God who was borne over the water, whether it is the Holy Spirit himself.
Dulc.1.7.48. 1. Novissime exponendum poscis de spiritu Dei qui superferebatur super aquam. Quidam enim asseverant, inquis, Spiritum Sanctum, alii mundanum spiritum dicunt, dicentes quia non potuit historiographus cum creaturis enumerare Creatorem, nec huic locum aliquem deputare, qui ubique sit totus cum Patre videlicet atque Filio.
8.1. Last of all you ask for an exposition concerning the Spirit of God who was borne over the water. For some assert, you say, that it is the Holy Spirit; others say a worldly spirit, saying that the historian could not have enumerated the Creator together with creatures, nor assigned any place to him, who is everywhere whole, namely, together with the Father and the Son.
Dulc.1.8.18. 2. Quid ergo istorum ego senserim, ex primo libro eorum, quos de Genesi duodecim, sicut potui, non secundum allegorias sed secundum rerum gestarum fidem scripsi, in hoc opusculum transtuli.
8.2. What, then, of these views I have held, I have transferred into this small work from the first book of those which, as I could, I wrote On Genesis in twelve books, not according to allegories but according to the trustworthiness of the events.
Dulc.1.8.2Inest, inquam, Deo benignitas summa et sancta et iusta et quidam non ex indigentia sed ex beneficientia veniens amor in opera sua. Propterea priusquam scriberetur: 'dixit Deus: fiat lux (Gen 1, 3),' praecessit Scriptura dicens: 'et Spiritus Dei superferebatur super aquam (Gen 1, 2),'
There is in God, I said, a kindness supreme and holy and just, and a certain love toward his works coming not from need but from beneficence. Therefore, before it was written: 'God said: let there be light (Gen 1:3),' Scripture went before, saying: 'and the Spirit of God was borne over the water (Gen 1:2),'
Dulc.1.8.2quia sive 'aquae' nomine appellare voluit totam corporalem materiam, ut eo modo insinuaret unde facta et formata sint omnia, quae in suis generibus iam dignoscere possumus, appellans aquam quia ex humida natura videmus omnia in terra per species varias formari atque concrescere,
because either by the name 'water' he wished to designate all corporeal matter, so as in that way to suggest whence were made and formed all the things that we can now distinguish in their kinds—calling it water because we see that out of a moist nature all things on earth are formed and grow together through various forms—
Dulc.1.8.2sive spiritalem vitam quamdam ante formam conversionis quasi fluitantem, superferebatur utique Spiritus Dei, quia subiacebat scilicet bonae voluntati Creatoris quidquid illud erat, quod formandum perficiendumque inchoaverat;
or else he wished to designate a certain spiritual life, as it were fluid before the form of its turning; in either case the Spirit of God was borne over it, because, namely, whatever that was which he had begun to form and perfect lay subject to the good will of the Creator;
Dulc.1.8.2ut dicente Deo in Verbo suo: 'fiat lux,' in bona voluntate, hoc est bono placito eius, pro modo sui generis maneret quod factum est. Et ideo rectum est quod placuerit Deo, Scriptura dicente: 'et facta est lux; et vidit Deus lucem quia bona est (Gen 1, 3-4),'
so that, when God said in his Word: 'let there be light,' that which was made remained, according to the measure of its kind, in his good will, that is, his good pleasure. And therefore it is right that it pleased God, Scripture saying: 'and there was light; and God saw the light, that it was good (Gen 1:3-4),'
Dulc.1.8.2ut quemadmodum in ipso exordio inchoatae creaturae, quae 'caeli et terrae' nomine propter id quod de illa perficiendum erat commemorata est, Trinitas insinuatur Creatoris (nam dicente Scriptura: 'in principio fecit Deus caelum et terram (Gen 1, 1),' intellegimus Patrem in Dei nomine et Filium in principii nomine,
so that, just as at the very beginning of the creation begun—which was mentioned by the name of 'heaven and earth' on account of what was to be perfected out of it—the Trinity of the Creator is suggested (for when Scripture says: 'in the beginning God made heaven and earth (Gen 1:1),' we understand the Father in the name of God and the Son in the name of beginning,
Dulc.1.8.2qui non Patri sed per se ipsum creatae primitus ac potissimum spiritali creaturae et consequenter etiam universae creaturae principium est, dicente autem Scriptura: 'et Spiritus Dei superferebatur super aquam,' completam commemorationem Trinitatis agnoscimus) ita et in conversione atque perfectione creaturae, ut rerum species digerantur, eadem Trinitas insinuetur, Verbum Dei scilicet et Verbi Generator, cum dicitur: 'dixit Deus,' et sancta Bonitas, in qua Deo placet quidquid ei pro suae naturae modulo perfectum placet, cum dicitur: 'vidit Deus quia bonum est (Gen 1, 4).'
who is the beginning not to the Father but through himself—first and chiefly of the spiritual creation, created at the start, and consequently of the whole creation as well—and when Scripture says: 'and the Spirit of God was borne over the water,' we recognize the complete mention of the Trinity) so also in the turning and perfecting of the creation, that the forms of things may be set in order, the same Trinity is suggested: namely, the Word of God and the Begetter of the Word, when it is said: 'God said,' and the holy Goodness, in which whatever is perfect according to the measure of its nature pleases God, when it is said: 'God saw that it was good (Gen 1:4).'
Dulc.1.8.28. 3. Sed cur commemorata prius quamvis imperfecta creatura postea commemoratur Spiritus Dei, prius dicente Scriptura: 'terra autem erat invisibilis et incomposita, et tenebrae erant super abyssum,' ac deinde inferente: 'et Spiritus Dei superferebatur super aquam' (Gen 1, 2)?
8.3. But why is the creation, though imperfect, mentioned first, and the Spirit of God mentioned afterward, Scripture first saying: 'but the earth was invisible and unformed, and darkness was over the deep,' and then adding: 'and the Spirit of God was borne over the water' (Gen 1:2)?
Dulc.1.8.2An quoniam egenus atque indiguus amor ita diligit, ut rebus quas diligit subiciatur, propterea cum commemoraretur Spiritus Dei, in quo sancta eius benevolentia dilectioque intellegitur, superferri dictus est, ne facienda opera sua per indigentiae necessitatem potius quam per abundantiam beneficientiae Deus amare putaretur?
Is it because a needy and indigent love loves in such a way that it is made subject to the things it loves, and therefore, when the Spirit of God was mentioned—in whom his holy benevolence and love is understood—he was said to be borne over, lest God be thought to love his works that were to be made through the necessity of need rather than through the abundance of beneficence?
Dulc.1.8.2Cuius rei memor Apostolus dicturus de caritate supereminentem viam demonstraturum se ait (Cf. 1 Cor 12, 31), et alio loco: 'supereminentem,' inquit, 'scientiae caritatem Christi (Eph 3, 19).'
Mindful of this, the Apostle, about to speak of love, says he will show a more excellent way (See 1 Cor 12:31), and in another place he says: 'the love of Christ, which surpasses knowledge (Eph 3:19).'
Dulc.1.8.2Cum ergo sic oporteret insinuari Spiritum Dei, ut superferri diceretur, commodius factum est ut prius insinuaretur aliquid inchoatum, cui superferri diceretur, non autem loco sed omnia superante ac praecellente potentia.
Since, then, the Spirit of God had to be suggested in such a way as to be said to be borne over, it was more fitting that first something begun should be suggested over which he might be said to be borne—not, however, in place, but by a power that surpasses and excels all things.
Dulc.1.8.2QUAESTIO QUINTA
QUESTION FIVE
Quomodo electus David secundum cor Dei.
How David was chosen according to the heart of God.
5. 1. Iam nunc illud quod disserendum distuleram paulisper intende. Quaeris enim: quare dixerit Dominus nimirum praescius futurorum: 'elegi David secundum cor meum (Act 13, 22; 1 Reg 13, 14),' cum talia et tanta homo ipse commiserit.
5.1. Now at last attend a little to that which I had deferred for discussion. For you ask: why the Lord, who surely foreknew the future, said: 'I have chosen David according to my own heart (Acts 13:22; 1 Sam 13:14),' though that man himself committed such great offenses.
Dulc.1.5.15. 2. Quod quidem, si de ipso David, qui reprobato Saule et exstincto fuit rex Israel (Cf. 2 Reg 5, 3), dictum intellegamus, magis quia Deus praescius futurorum est, praevidit in eo tantam pietatem tamque veracem paenitentiam, ut esset in eorum numero de quibus ipse dicit: beati quorum remissae sunt iniquitates, et quorum tecta sunt peccata. Beatus vir cui non imputavit Dominus peccatum (Ps 31, 1-2).
5.2. If indeed we understand this to be said of David himself, who, after Saul was rejected and slain, was king of Israel (See 2 Sam 5:3), then, rather because God is foreknowing of the future, he foresaw in him such great piety and so true a repentance that he would be among the number of those of whom he himself says: blessed are those whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord has not imputed sin (Ps 32:1-2 (31:1-2)).
Dulc.1.5.2Cum ergo praesciret eum Deus et peccaturum et peccata sua pia humilitate et sincera paenitentia deleturum, cur non diceret: inveni David secundum cor meum (Act 13, 22; 1 Reg 13, 14), cui non erat imputaturus peccatum tam multa bona facienti et cum tanta pietate viventi et ipsa pietate pro peccatis suis sacrificium contriti spiritus offerenti?
Since, then, God foreknew that he would both sin and would blot out his sins by pious humility and sincere repentance, why should he not say: I have found David according to my own heart (Acts 13:22; 1 Sam 13:14), to whom he was not going to impute sin—a man doing so many good things and living with such great piety and, by that very piety, offering for his sins the sacrifice of a contrite spirit?
Dulc.1.5.2Propter haec omnia verissime dictum est: inveni David secundum cor meum. Quia licet secundum cor Dei non esset, quod ille peccavit, tamen secundum cor Dei fuit, quod pro peccatis suis congrua poenitentia satisfecit.
On account of all this it was most truly said: I have found David according to my own heart. For although what he sinned was not according to the heart of God, yet it was according to the heart of God that he made satisfaction for his sins by a fitting repentance.
Dulc.1.5.2Hoc solum ergo in illo secundum cor Dei non fuit, quod illi Deus non imputavit. Hoc itaque ablato, id est non imputato, quid remansit nisi unde verissime diceretur: inveni David secundum cor meum?
This alone, then, in him was not according to the heart of God, which God did not impute to him. With this taken away, then—that is, not imputed—what remained but that from which it might most truly be said: I have found David according to my own heart?
Dulc.1.5.25. 3. Si autem hoc prophetice dictum de Christo velimus accipere, nullus nodus quaestionis occurret, nisi forte ut quaeratur a nobis, quomodo Christum recte isto nomine vocare potuerit. Sed respondemus propter semen David, ex quo carnem Christus assumpsit. Nec sine exemplo rationem huius in Christo nominis reddimus.
5.3. But if we wish to take this as said prophetically of Christ, no knot of the question will arise, unless perhaps it be asked of us how he could rightly call Christ by this name. But we answer: on account of the seed of David, from which Christ took flesh. Nor do we give the reason for this name in Christ without precedent.
Dulc.1.5.3Invenimus quippe apertissime Christum Iesum apud prophetam Ezechielem David esse appellatum ubi legitur ex persona Dei Patris: et suscitabo super pecora mea pastorem unum qui pascat ea, servum meum David; et ipse pascet ea, et ipse erit his in pastorem. Ego autem Dominus ero eis in Deum, et servus meus David princeps in medio eorum, ego Dominus locutus sum (Ez 34, 23-24).
For we find most plainly that Christ Jesus is called David in the prophet Ezekiel, where it is read, in the person of God the Father: and I will raise up over my flock one shepherd to feed them, my servant David; and he himself will feed them, and he himself will be their shepherd. But I the Lord will be their God, and my servant David a prince in their midst, I the Lord have spoken (Ezek 34:23-24).
Dulc.1.5.3Et alio loco: et rex, inquit, unus erit omnibus imperans; et non erunt ultra duae gentes, nec dividentur amplius in duo regna, neque polluentur ultra in idolis suis et abominationibus suis et in cunctis iniquitatibus suis; et salvos eos faciam de universis sedibus suis in quibus peccaverunt, et mundabo eos. Et erunt mihi populus, et ego ero eis Deus; et servus meus David rex super eos, et pastor unus erit omnium eorum (Ez 37, 22-24).
And in another place: and one king, he says, will rule over them all; and they will no longer be two nations, nor be divided any more into two kingdoms, nor be defiled any more with their idols and their abominations and all their iniquities; and I will save them out of all their dwellings in which they sinned, and I will cleanse them. And they will be my people, and I will be their God; and my servant David king over them, and one shepherd will there be of them all (Ezek 37:22-24).
Dulc.1.5.3Osee quoque propheta, cum praenuntiaret tempus Iudaeorum, quale nunc habent, et in Christum eos postea credituros, eumdem Christum David nomine prophetavit dicens: quoniam diebus multis sedebunt filii Israel sine rege, sine principe, sine sacrificio, sine altari, sine sacerdotio, sine manifestationibus (Os 3, 4).
The prophet Hosea too, when he foretold the time of the Jews, such as they now have, and that they would afterward believe in Christ, prophesied the same Christ under the name of David, saying: for many days the children of Israel will sit without king, without prince, without sacrifice, without altar, without priesthood, without manifestations (Hos 3:4).
Dulc.1.5.3Sic nunc esse Iudaeos ambigit nemo. Sed quod ait Apostolus Paulus gentibus loquens: sicut enim vos aliquando non credidistis Deo, nunc autem misericordiam consecuti estis in illorum incredulitate, sic et ipsi nunc non crediderunt in vestra misericordia, ut et ipsi misericordiam consequantur (Rom 11, 30-31);
That the Jews are now such no one doubts. But what the Apostle Paul says, speaking to the gentiles: for just as you once did not believe God, but now have obtained mercy through their unbelief, so they too have now not believed in your mercy, that they too may obtain mercy (Rom 11:30-31);
Dulc.1.5.3hoc Propheta iste tanto ante praedicens secutus adiunxit: et postea revertentur filii Israel, et inquirent Dominum Deum suum et David regem suum, et stupescent in Domino et in bonis ipsius in novissimis diebus (Os 3, 5). Ecce et hic per David nomen prophetatus est Christus, quoniam quando ista prophetabantur, ille David rex Israel iam olim ante dormierat. Dominus autem Iesus ex eius semine fuerat in carne venturus, propter quod prophetico loquendi modo appellabatur David.
this the prophet, foretelling it so long before, went on to add: and afterward the children of Israel will return, and will seek the Lord their God and David their king, and they will be amazed at the Lord and at his good things in the last days (Hos 3:5). Behold, here too Christ is prophesied under the name of David, since, when these things were prophesied, that David, king of Israel, had long since fallen asleep. But the Lord Jesus was to come in the flesh from his seed, on account of which he was called David in the prophetic manner of speaking.
Dulc.1.5.3Videtur autem Apostolus Paulus hoc testimonium ita posuisse in Actibus Apostolorum, ut nonnisi de illo rege David qui Sauli successit possit intellegi. Nam inter cetera: et exinde, inquit, postulaverunt regem, et dedit illis Deus Saul filium Cis, virum de tribu Beniamin annis quadraginta. Et amoto illo suscitavit illis David regem, cui et testimonium perhibens dixit: inveni David filium Iesse virum secundum cor meum, qui faciet omnes voluntates meas.
But the Apostle Paul seems to have set down this testimony in the Acts of the Apostles in such a way that it can be understood only of that king David who succeeded Saul. For among other things he says: and thereafter, he says, they asked for a king, and God gave them Saul the son of Kish, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, for forty years. And when he had been removed, he raised up for them David as king, to whom also he bore witness and said: I have found David the son of Jesse, a man according to my own heart, who will do all my wishes.
Dulc.1.5.3Sed quoniam secutus adiungit et dicit: huius Deus ex semine secundum promissionem adduxit Israel salvatorem Iesum (Act 13, 21-23), altius significavit in Domino Iesu potius esse intellegendum illud testimonium, qui vere fecit omnes voluntates Patris Dei, quam in illo rege David, qui licet secundum superiorem disputationem, remissis peccatis et non imputatis, propter ipsam quoque piam paenitentiam non immerito dici possit inventus secundum cor Dei, tamen omnes voluntates Dei quomodo fecit?
But since he goes on to add and says: of his seed God, according to the promise, has brought to Israel a Savior, Jesus (Acts 13:21-23), he indicated more deeply that this testimony is rather to be understood of the Lord Jesus, who truly did all the wishes of God the Father, than of that king David, who—although, according to the discussion above, with his sins forgiven and not imputed, he can also, on account of that very pious repentance, not undeservedly be said to have been found according to the heart of God—yet how did he do all the wishes of God?
Dulc.1.5.3Qui cum excellentissime laudaretur, quando eius tempora et facta Scriptura narravit, notatus est tamen quod non destruxit excelsa, ubi sacrificabat populus Dei contra praeceptum Dei, qui tantummodo in tabernaculo testimonii sibi sacrificari iusserat, quamvis et in eisdem excelsis eidem sacrificaretur Deo. Quae postmodum excelsa ex ipsius David semine propagatus rex Ezechias cum testimonio magnae suae laudis evertit (4 Reg 18, 4).
For when he was being most excellently praised, when Scripture narrated his times and deeds, he was nevertheless noted for not having destroyed the high places, where the people of God sacrificed against the precept of God, who had commanded sacrifice to be offered to him only in the tabernacle of the testimony—although on those same high places sacrifice was offered to the same God. These high places King Hezekiah, descended from the seed of that very David, afterward overthrew, with the testimony of great praise for it (2 Kgs 18:4).
Dulc.1.5.35. 4. Sicut potui respondi inquisitionibus tuis. Si quid de his rebus invenisti melius, sive invenire potueris, gratissimum habebimus, si nos feceris nosse. Ego enim, quod et supra de me commemoravi, magis amo discere quam docere.
5.4. As I could, I have answered your inquiries. If you have found anything better on these matters, or should be able to find it, we will count it most welcome if you let us know. For I, as I have mentioned of myself above too, love to learn more than to teach.
Dulc.1.5.4